Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Paul Harris (basketball)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result was keep. WjBscribe 20:48, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

Paul Harris (basketball)

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delete - does not assert notability, does not meet standard for WP:BIO ZBrannigan 22:49, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Also, the article does not meet Wikipedia's quality standards (bad structure and grammar). Perhaps if more care was shown in writing the article, it would be more apparent to me why this person is notable. Overall, however, I'd recommend that current living non-professional athletes not be notable enough to allow a bio here. Troymaclure 23:04, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
 * This AfD nomination was incomplete. It is listed now. DumbBOT 14:03, 22 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Keep. The accomplishments listed under "college career" establish notability. --TruthbringerToronto (Talk | contribs) 16:32, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete No independent verification of the claims for notability, and no evidence of non-trivial coverage in secondary sources. One Night In Hackney 303 19:44, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep. I'm really not sure how one can argue that he fails to meet WP:BIO.  The WP:BIO guidelines actually quite specifically include American college sports athletes.  So there you have it, right there.  But even if you want to get stricter than that, he's not just any college athlete, but plays at the highest level (NCAA Division I) of the sport of amateur men's basketball, in one of that level's top conferences (The Big East), for one of that conference's (and indeed the entire sport of men's college basketball's) elite programs (Syracuse University), and he was actually one of the most highly-touted and watched prospects in the country entering this season (though his play in this first season admittedly didn't fully bear that out).  As such a top prospect, he's also definitely been covered by independent secondary sources, like Sports Illustrated.  As I see it, he's easily notable per WP:BIO.  If one feels the WP:BIO guidelines are too loose in that area, I'd actually agree with that, but as they stand today, one cannot say he fails to meet them.  The article is just poorly written and sourced.  Mwelch 00:26, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep per Mwelch. Grammar and such is a matter for cleanup, not deletion. Harris is a player on one of the most well-known NCAA teams, and his career has be covered by reliable sources. Slic e NYC (Talk) 20:53, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
 * weak keep if refs are put for notability. if not then Delete. thats fair--Zedco 10:47, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep. A search for "'Paul Harris' +basketball -wikipedia" produces 1840 results in Google News, most of which seem to be about this Paul Harris.  The subject is clearly notable; the only issue is sourcing.  -- Black Falcon 22:34, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.