Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Paul Kane (entrepreneur)


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The result was   keep. Mojo Hand (talk) 00:24, 24 October 2013 (UTC)

Paul Kane (entrepreneur)

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Fails WP:GNG. "Holding a DNS key" does not establish encyclopedic notability. NorthBySouthBaranof (talk) 22:32, 15 October 2013 (UTC)
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 * Keep. He's actually got quite a bit of coverage for this: The Guardian, Metro, the Register, and the Telegraph.  They're all basically about the same thing, but there are less substantial quotations in other articles, where he's presented as an expert, such The New York Times and the Register.  I agree that he's not a very exciting guy, but he does seem to get some real press attention. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 23:10, 16 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep - a google search for "Paul Kane DNS" returns many hits, including TechRadar and University of Bath, which combined with NRP's sources show he easily meets WP:GNG. Ritchie333  (talk)  (cont)   09:17, 17 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Merge to Domain Name System Security Extensions (making a new section on the keyholders). I updated the article to make it more accurate. It should be apparent that this is a feature of the DNSSEC protocol/spec, rather than something intrinsic to the entire internet. Not all the key holders are currently known, but Dan Kaminsky (who is otherwise notable) is another. Kane only seems to be potentially notable for his role in this, not for anything else - if there is in-depth material on his other achievements (e.g. his business) I'd recommend keep, but it all seems to be a single-event news story, "local man appointed to something big that we don't quite understand", and it can be easily covered at Domain Name System Security Extensions while avoiding ridiculous claims about him holding "the key to the internet". --Colapeninsula (talk) 13:21, 17 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Merge per Colapeninsula. Being a DNSSEC key holder is not inherently notable on its own to justify a standalone biography article. It could be notable enough to have an article about the Keyholders as a group / phenomenon, like we do for some other bureaucratic positions, but best to start at the main article and split off from there. -- Green Cardamom (talk) 06:35, 18 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep the Institution of Engineering and Technology Ambrose Medal for 25 years of innovative work suggests significant recognition by peers and notable enough for inclusion to Wikipedia. -- Green Cardamom (talk) 18:12, 22 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Merge per Colapeninsula. He is not obviously otherwise notable. Peterkingiron (talk) 12:44, 21 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Being a key holder isn't inherently notable, granted, but he does have multiple news hits with himself as the main subject (eg: "Bath entrepreneur 'holds the key' to internet security", "Internet security keyholder reveals truth behind 'Seven Keys' story". If the sources were titled and mainly about the keyholders, with Kane getting mere passing mentions, then a merge would be appropriate. But it seems he's notable for two things - that, and being CommunityDNS CEO, which is something different. A quick drill down other sources mentions him doing both. So do you redirect to Domain Name System Security Extensions or do you declare CommunityDNS the more notable term and redirect him there? Ritchie333  (talk)  (cont)   12:25, 22 October 2013 (UTC)


 * Keep Seems to pass the GNG. Kane has been covered over different periods of time.  Taylor Trescott  - my talk + my edits 13:02, 22 October 2013 (UTC)
 * All sources appear to concern the key. Are there are other sources? -- Green Cardamom (talk) 15:35, 22 October 2013 (UTC)
 * This source, from what appears to be a university conglomerate, dates from 2012 whereas most other sources listed so far are dated 2010. Obviously his key holdership comes up but the article is about him being awarded the IET achievement award. The article's directly about him. He gets the award. The key doesn't. Ritchie333  (talk)  (cont)   16:24, 22 October 2013 (UTC)
 * The award is a fairly significant recognition by his peers. Institution of Engineering and Technology is the largest engineering institution in the world (former IEE and IIE combined) and the Ambrose Fleming Medal only goes to one person each year (though they have about half a dozen achievement awards). This suggests he is notable enough beyond the key holder, changing my vote. -- Green Cardamom (talk) 18:12, 22 October 2013 (UTC)


 * Keep checked out links provided by NinjaRobotPirate. He does have genuine coverage. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Joer jamaica (talk • contribs) 19:22, 22 October 2013 (UTC)


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