Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Paul Pless


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

Paul Pless
The result was Merge. A speedy merge to University_of_Illinois_College_of_Law, considering the BLP1E comments and agreement between article creator, AfD nominator (me), and one other editor. There are no keeps--technically, I'm withdrawing the AfD with thanks to all involved. Drmies (talk) 17:48, 9 November 2011 (UTC)


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I was asked to look at this for BLP concerns, and I have those as well: we have a classic example of BLP1E (since I don't believe that assistant deans, or even deans, have automatic notability) here in what appears to be a name-and-shame article. That the subject was previously a "bit player" in another scandal doesn't alleviate the "one" in BLP1E, and if there is nothing else for which the subject is notable, it should be deleted. I'd speedy this if it weren't written somewhat neutrally; I'd like to see it resolved quickly. If the ARS comes along (and they are of course welcome) I'd urge them to consider the real-life implications of Wikipedia articles. Drmies (talk) 14:42, 9 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Academics and educators-related deletion discussions.  —Tom Morris (talk) 15:48, 9 November 2011 (UTC)


 * Merge to University of Illinois College of Law per WP:BLP1E. No need for a separate article on the perpetrator. Qwfp (talk) 16:04, 9 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks: I could live with a redirect, given this plethora of news articles. WP:BLP1E allows (even suggests) a redirect, so that would be fine with me. Drmies (talk) 17:43, 9 November 2011 (UTC)
 * I am the author of the article. I didn't know about the BLP1E policy, and if I had I probably wouldn't have written the article. I think Pless might be an important figure in retrospect if the ABA decides to verify more data from schools (which will almost certainly reveal more discrepancies) or employment data begins to be more scrutinized. But, if that happens, we can always recreate the page. Therefore, I'm voting we merge to University of Illinois College of Law per Qwfp's suggestion. --MonsieurKovacs (talk) 17:42, 9 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Hey Monsieur, I hope you noted that I remarked on the neutrality of your writing. "Name and shame" is not intended as a stab to you. Recreating in case more relevant stuff comes out (that is, if the person acquires more notability) is indeed easy and actually isn't even recreating--it's overwriting the redirect. You know what, since you agree, and I do, and a third editor does, and there are no keeps I'm going to go ahead and pull the AfD, and merge the article. If anyone has a problem with that, it can be undone, but this would be a time saver, I think. Thanks! Drmies (talk) 17:46, 9 November 2011 (UTC)
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