Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Paul Sanders (agent)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Clear consensus to delete. Wikipedia is not a forum for personal promotion. -- RoySmith (talk) 12:06, 21 August 2016 (UTC)

Paul Sanders (agent)

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I came upon this article while browsing through page creations by a sock farm uncovered in Sockpuppet investigations/Heathnw77. One would expect a promoter/agent to be mentioned in the news a few times, but I don't think there's enough to establish notability here. VegasNews.com looks like a one-man blog, and the News24hours.in link looks like a press release. There are a few hits at the Los Angeles Times, too, but they are not in-depth enough to satisfy me. I suspect this to be a vanity page created by a paid editor. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 20:52, 13 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Businesspeople-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 21:13, 13 August 2016 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. No significant coverage found. Regards, James (talk/contribs) 01:01, 14 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete The LA Times article cited in the article is basically a party announcemnt rather than any significant coverage of Sanders. BoyRD (talk) 01:05, 14 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete -- a non-notable agent and the analysis by the nom on the COI aspect is compelling. None of the entities the subject is associated with are notable and my searches do not turn up anything substantial either. K.e.coffman (talk) 04:59, 14 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete non-notable talent agent.John Pack Lambert (talk) 06:25, 14 August 2016 (UTC)
 * justify I am the subject of this page. I am not the author and my page was suggested by a journalist that has covered my career in the 1980's where many of my notable and somewhat historic shows were promoted. The suggested writer was not a Wikipedia expert and we did hire a experienced Wikipedia writer to submit the article using Wikipedia guidelines. Although my shows have countless news stories very little was mentioned about me as I am the behind the scenes person. A few reference articles are by indepentdent journalist but they are real journalist.I knlw personal websites cannot be used but if you see thepaulsandersstory.com you will see my documented history. I am getting more well established articles published as www.thepaulsandersstory.com is getting noticed. I ask that my page not be deleted but will follow suggestions from the Wikipedia community for my page to be notable. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lvtalent (talk • contribs) 16:14, 14 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Unfortunately, people who work behind the scenes often have trouble satisfying Wikipedia's inclusion criteria, which requires "significant coverage". What this means exactly is kind open to individual interpretation, which is why we have these debates here.  Wikipedia's policies and inclusion criteria aren't always fair, but they're the best we've currently got.  Since you're more likely aware of coverage, it would  help if you could point out here any longer, more in-depth articles.  If you think the article is likely to satisfy our guidelines soon due to increasing coverage, one possibility is to ask an admin to save a copy of the Wikipedia article to an area for article drafts, where it can be worked on without immediate fear of deletion. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 16:53, 15 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your suggestion. Although I am not pleased to have my page deleted but do recognize and appreciate the importance of the strict guidelines and want to thank you for watching over the communities. I know many notable news publishers that covers my shows but I think it wouldn't be unethical to ask a publisher to do a story about myself. As I am getting near retirement I am getting contacted by reporters. I will take your advice and ask am administrator to save my page as a draft.I would encourage readers to read www.thepaulsandersstory.com and read about my time at The Golden Bear and The Whisky A GoGo and will see some interesting facts and documentation. I would like to employ a professional Wikipedia expert to help me publish a validated Wikipedia page. Any suggestions would be appreciated. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lvtalent (talk • contribs) 17:33, 15 August 2016 (UTC)
 * 'Save' Once again I ask the community to save my article and motion to close article for deletion at least on a temporary basis as more notable recourses to be added.I honestly believe that you will be convinced of my achievements in the music industry.I am having high caliber journalist coming to my aid to document my history.Lvtalent (talk) 03:18, 16 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Comment -- once these stories run in 3rd party sources then it may be time to have an article created. Wikipedia relies on reliable secondary sources to base its articles on. K.e.coffman (talk) 04:31, 16 August 2016 (UTC)


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