Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Paul Thomas Abbott (2nd nomination)


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The result was   delete. \ Backslash Forwardslash / {talk} 04:33, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

Paul Thomas Abbott
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Doesn't seem nearly notable enough. WP:NOTE. Hhe is known for a single poem that was only mentioned in an article about another author's work. There are no mainstream reviews of this book and it never made any sales lists. The award he was given is not sufficiently notable. President of your university's poetry society is not particularly notable, either. Previously an AfD was withdrawn, but the reasoning was obviously shaky. Simply because a group of authors does not get enough attention from outside sources is certainly not a reason for inclusion. If the original author wants better coverage of Clutag Press, then perhaps this content should be part of that article. The author himself is clearly not notable enough. A quick google search of "Paul Thomas Abbott" gives only 175 results, many of which are automated Wikipedia references. This is only secondary evidence, but is pretty powerful. Hampton (talk) 02:18, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Living people-related deletion discussions. --Erwin85Bot (talk) 00:02, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
 * This AfD nomination was incomplete (missing step 3). It is listed now. DumbBOT (talk) 13:53, 30 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Poetry-related deletion discussions.  -- TexasAndroid (talk) 15:41, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete per nomination. Seems to fail notability. Went to college, wrote a poem, promoted the poem. Edison (talk) 16:13, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Weak delete, he does seem to fail the WP:BIO standard, but it isn't so cut and dried as the nominator states. Since about 1970, about half the winners of the Newdigate Prize have Wikipedia articles, and before that the winners include Donald Hall and Julian Huxley. Likewise, Oxford Poetry, which he edited, has a long list of distinguished editors, including Aldous Huxley, C. Day-Lewis and Kingsley Amis. That said, I wouldn't support notability on that alone, but this is just as likely a premature subject for an article than a totally unworthy one. It wouldn't surprise me if there is some in-depth coverage in one or more reliable-source publications without archives on the web. If one were found, this should be kept. Reconsideration (talk) 01:41, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete per Edison. Well put. Niteshift36 (talk) 07:23, 4 July 2009 (UTC)
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