Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Paul Whitrod


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The result was delete. - Mailer Diablo 18:04, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

Paul Whitrod
Does not appear to meet WP:BIO. There is little assertion of any notability. Deli nk 16:30, 8 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Speedy delete. Obviously NN. Egil 16:40, 8 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Paul Whitrod is the UK representative for Chow Gar Southern Praying Mantis. This is a style and a topic that is of interest to many people. It would be a shame if it was deleted, as I am sure there are bios of many other people on wiki too.
 * Weak Delete. Unless anyone can furnish more sources per WP:V. Practitioner of a very obscure branch of martial arts (per his website). If there is only one practitioner in the country, it would not be difficult for him to be the country representative, so the statement is without substance. Notability does not seem to be asserted. In this field, competitions are very common and frequent, and the absence of any cited competition wins would suggest lack of notability. However, as a counter-argument, he does appear to have authored 2 books listed on Amazon.co.uk. The one released in 2006 has a ranking in the 96 thousandsths which, for an obscure arts form could be respectable. No evidence of any review of the books. Ohconfucius 02:15, 9 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete. Fails the tests of WP:BIO. -- Aiditor 15:05, 10 September 2006 (UTC)
 * In response to Ohconfucius - Chow Gar is not that obscure, there are hundreds of people that study it in the UK, and thousands worldwide. The Beijing police force also learn it for self defence. Also, it is not a competition style, so Chow Gar practitioners will not enter Karate / kickboxing competitions (unless fighting under different rules). One of the problems of references/sources with the less well known martial arts is that much of the information has been passed on verbally. Every written article has to start somewhere surely? My understanding (from what I read in the article on Wikipedia in teh Observer on Sunday) is that its purpose is to allow the more obscure facts and information to be shared. I am obviously biased as I study this style. If you read his biography though, you will see that he attained UK representative (i.e. Master) by living and training with the late Grandmaster of the style, Ip Shui, at his home in Hong Kong. This was after proving himself to be a worthy student after joining Ip Chee's (the current Grand Master) class in London when he first arrived i nthe UK. Oh, the style was also featured on a martial arts documentary series, I think it was called "Mind, Body and Kick Ass Moves". I did a Google test, the he got 1550 results. Has the Google Test criteria been expanded upon? Is there a minimum? User:Jonpaulwade


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