Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Paul Zerdin


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   Withdrawn by nominator.  Enigma msg  01:18, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

Paul Zerdin

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Unsourced BLP for 10 months. Notability is borderline at best.  Enigma msg  03:55, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Living people-related deletion discussions.  -- — LinguistAtLarge • Talk  03:56, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep. An unsourced BLP is only problematic when the unsourced material is negative or contentious which is not the case here. A Google News search turns up 80 hits which, based on his unusual name, are highly likely to refer to him. According to The Stage, he is "a Royal Variety regular and sometime Muppet puppeteer." The Royal Variety only includes notable entertainers. - Mgm|(talk) 10:25, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Their standard for notability is not Wikipedia's standard. Being a "Royal Variety regular" doesn't mean much. If he's notable, then the article should have references to support that.  Enigma msg  12:14, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
 * If the article was longer I might have agreed it should be deleted, but a stub is hardly unsalvageable when there are 80 possible sources lying around. As for the Royal Variety Performance, some common sense would be nice. Can you name a person other than Zerdin that performed in the RVP and is not notable to Wikipedia's standards? I believe no such person exists, because people who do such performances are chosen based on their existing notability in the entertainment industry. - Mgm|(talk) 21:56, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Look at the article on the Royal Variety. I don't think all their performers are automatically notable.  Enigma msg  01:14, 17 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep. There's plenty of evidence in the Google News search linked above that the subject is notable - I've added a couple of the sources to the article. The Times seems to regard him as notably good and the Daily Mirror as notably bad, but either way he is notable. And yes, I agree, an appearance at the Royal Variety Performance, although maybe not considered particularly cool amongst the teenagers that edit Wikipedia, is by common sense an indication of notability. Don't you Americans understand that such a performance involves the risk of the artist being beheaded at the Tower if it doesn't amuse the monarch? Phil Bridger (talk) 19:01, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Is there a reason you have to be deliberately offensive? If you think this guy is notable, you can say so without the insults. If it helps, I am not an American teenager, a group you seem to vilify. I am withdrawing the AfD because it simply is not worth it for me to have to respond to personal attacks simply because I nominated an article to be deleted.  Enigma msg  01:18, 17 April 2009 (UTC)


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