Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Paula Goodspeed


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   redirect to Paula Abdul.  MBisanz  talk 03:28, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

Paula Goodspeed

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This page should be deleted because its subject fails WP:N and violates WP:BLP1E, and especially because we're an encyclopedia, not tabloid trash. Biruitorul Talk 03:54, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete as not news, not a memorial. Eusebeus (talk) 04:17, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete--I can only chime in here. Drmies (talk) 04:50, 11 December 2008 (UTC)


 * merge any relevant material either into American Idol or Paula Abdul (or something else, if someone has a better idea). The event itself wasn't notable enough for its own article, and neither is Ms. Goodspeed, but it should be mentioned somewhere on here. Umbralcorax (talk) 04:52, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment - Paula Goodspeed is mentioned in a small section on Paula Abdul's article Paula Abdul. Aspects (talk) 04:58, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Then I have no objections to a simple redirect. Umbralcorax (talk) 15:38, 11 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Delete - Article fails WP:MUSIC and WP:BLP1E. The person is known for a one-time event and most of the article are other people's reactions to her event (death.) Aspects (talk) 04:56, 11 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Keep per coverage, television appearances,paula abduls statements, and overall notability.--Judo112 (talk) 08:19, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
 * I could however agree to a merge of all the info to the Paula Abdul section.--Judo112 (talk) 08:20, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment I strongly now support a keep of the article as the opinions of what to do is so widespread. If Paula is notable enough for a section in the Paula Abdul article i think their is reason to believe she is notable enough for her own article instead. And considering the huge impact on Paula Abduls life with her selling her house and everything i think thats reason enough for a keep.--Judo112 (talk) 12:30, 12 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Keep or merge as the fact is that Paula Abdul herself has spoken about Goodspeed on national television(and is selling her house because of the incident). I would suggest that Goodspeeds article is either kept on a weak keep basis or that all information is merged into the Paula Abdul section mentioned. We can not say that Goodspeed is not notable in any way, as she has been a subject of comment from former american idol winners and jury and the media coverage has been quite extensive. Thats my final word.--MarkusBJoke (talk) 08:29, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment Changes my vote to keep, after seeing the media interest for this person.--MarkusBJoke (talk) 12:35, 12 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Redirect so people can find the actual information in context. If it's already mentioned in Paula Abdul then surely a redirect is in order... - Mgm|(talk) 09:05, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Redirect per above. --MaNeMeBasat (talk) 09:49, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Weak keep'. If this were just an obsessed fan, there wouldn't be enough to peg a separate article on. However this individual crosses the line into notability by the fact she appeared on a nationally broadcast TV program, a circumstance that led to her later actions. If she had never appeared on American Idol I'd say merge, but she did, so that adds notability. WP:BLP1E does not apply incidentially as that criteria is reserved only for living people and if we were to apply it to dead people, in theory that would disqualify articles such as Lee Harvey Oswald or Marc Lepine. There might be another notability criteria that could be cited applying to the dead, however. 23skidoo (talk) 18:06, 11 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Delete - This is just a tabloid story, forgotten tomorrow —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.14.149.86 (talk) 00:07, 13 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Keep - The woman received notability in her own right for her audition on the nationally televised show, before her suicide that was heavily covered in the media. Weightchamp (talk) 02:14, 13 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Weak redirect - My feeling is that WP:BLP1E just barely doesn't apply here. I suppose that there are two events, the poor girl's audition and her later suicide.  But that's just by the skin of her teeth.  If we can find a good source that covers her life outside of the stalking stuff, then maybe I could change my mind, but really I think this was the sort of thing BLP1E was made for.-- Te xa sD ex   &#9733;  03:09, 13 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment I personally think that a strong keep is in order here. As i have witnessed alot of interest from the media for this story. And as someone pointed out here before, it has had a huge effect on Paula Abduls life forcing here to move from her home. I havent seen any convincing argument here to defend either a redirect,merge or delete, really. So "keep" would be (in my opinion) the most sensible way of dealing with this article. She was a notable media perosn before her death and had been on many shows and overall media. her death got coverage all over the world, myfriends on the other side of the world even heard of her death and their country doesnt broadcast American Idol. Shes notable per that.--MarkusBJoke (talk) 12:27, 13 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Redirect to Paula Abdul. Goodspeed's 15 minutes of fame have expired. WWGB (talk) 09:53, 14 December 2008 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.