Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Paulie Ayala (featherweight boxer)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   King Soloman Reigns. Wily D 13:27, 26 June 2014 (UTC)

Paulie Ayala (featherweight boxer)

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Non-notable boxer - he is brother to two notable boxers but does not meet WP:NBOX and notability is WP:NOTINHERITED Peter Rehse (talk) 10:22, 8 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Martial arts-related deletion discussions. Peter Rehse (talk) 10:22, 8 June 2014 (UTC)

I am also nominating the following related page for the same reason:Peter Rehse (talk) 10:26, 8 June 2014 (UTC)


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 * Keep Paulie Ayala (featherweight boxer). Notable boxer with numerous reliable sources, easily meets the general notability guideline. Added references, revamped, article in better shape now.--Tomwsulcer (talk) 23:49, 9 June 2014 (UTC)


 * Good work and thanks for updating rather than just pointing out. BoxRec does not mention the WBA fights - and I based the initial nomination on that.  BoxRec is usually pretty good for that so I wonder what happened.  The source you gave for that is just as good (better)?).Peter Rehse (talk) 08:41, 10 June 2014 (UTC)


 * Thanks, it is good to challenge articles because often what sometimes happens is the articles get improved. This one sat there for so long, unimproved, that my reaction was the same as yours, like, what is going on here. So it is good that you challenged it. I've come to notice that using the "news" function when searching on Google often has the effect of missing lots of sources, particularly in sports, so in the browser, I put the subject in quotes like "Paulie Ayala" and simply searched the web, without clicking on the "news" function, and some of the better sources emerged only after five to ten SERP pages, to my surprise. So I tidied the article a bit.--Tomwsulcer (talk) 11:01, 10 June 2014 (UTC)
 * I still think Sam should be deleted and would want this AfD to run its course.Peter Rehse (talk) 11:04, 10 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Ok but there should really be two separate deletion discussion pages for Paulie and Sammy.--Tomwsulcer (talk) 12:54, 10 June 2014 (UTC)


 * Keep Sammy Ayala. Found more sources and revamped so perhaps this should be reconsidered. Sufficient sources meets the WP:GNG including NY Times, NY Post, San Antonio newspaper sources, ESPN, Box Rec, etc.--Tomwsulcer (talk) 12:54, 10 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, NorthAmerica1000 09:54, 16 June 2014 (UTC)


 * Delete Sammy, Keep Paulie As a WBA champion Paulie clearly meets WP:NBOX. Sammy does not meet WP:NBOX and I believe he lacks the significant coverage required to meet WP:GNG.  He is mentioned in articles, but only in passing. Papaursa (talk) 05:05, 23 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete Sammy Fails NBOX and GNG.204.126.132.231 (talk) 16:01, 24 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Keep Paulie Meets WP:NBOX. 204.126.132.231 (talk) 16:01, 24 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Wow. Looks like someone has multiple personality disorder.  So many IP addresses, so little weight in a deletion discussion.  KDS 4444  Talk  10:26, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
 * ???Peter Rehse (talk) 10:31, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
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