Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Paulo Jorge


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   Nomination withdrawn. Talk Islander 01:19, 1 March 2009 (UTC)

Paulo Jorge
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Delete. This is not a given name - Paulo is the given name. This does not meet the criteria for hndis and disambig either, according to Manual of Style (disambiguation pages). See Frank William AfD discussion Boleyn2 (talk) 08:31, 24 February 2009 (UTC) Nomination completed by  Anturiaethwr  Talk 09:00, 24 February 2009 (UTC) Comment Those who contribute here may wish to comment on the AfDs of theses similar pages: André Henri, Frank William, Marie Constant and Francis William. Boleyn2 (talk) 18:00, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

Withdraw nomination Upon further investigation, I've lumped this in with seemingly similar pages. Three of these seem to use Paulo Jorge as the personal name although it is not their full name. The others I have removed, although they are still covered in the see also section, pages beginning with 'Paulo Jorge'. Boleyn2 (talk) 22:05, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
 * (comment that I've posted on Frank William AfD page. I am similarly unconvinced one way or another with Paulo Jorge.) Comment without recommendation - it appears that nom is basing this (and perhaps other) nominations, not on MOS:DAB (which is actually rather silent about this situation) but on WP:IDONTLIKEIT instead. If the nom wishes to nuke given name pages, he/she should start the discussion as to whether the mention of given names should not be mentioned at all in MOS:DAB; similarly, WP:ALLORNOTHING is being implied here, yet this is not a valid reason for either keeping or deleting an article, a redirect, or even a disambiguation page. In addition, nom "confesses to preferring the deletion of all given name pages that don't offer a substantial discussion of the origin and meaning of the name itself" - yet MOS:DAB discourages such a presentation in article space in the first place. At present I remain unconvinced one way or the other as I am unsure as to whether these people are referred to regularly as "Frank William" as opposed to simply "Frank". On the other hand, claiming that this is a vanity page denies good faith, which itself is a violation of one of the Five Pillars of Wikipedia (two of them, actually). --147.70.242.54 (talk) 20:13, 26 February 2009 (UTC) Strikethru added to ameliorate the damage done by this contrib. --Jerzy•t 10:18, 28 February 2009 (UTC) 
 *  ATTENTION : The Nominator in this AfD is NOT the "nom" that the above reckless and abusive IP is referring to; it is i who am the libeled party. The above travesty can be evaluated in its original context, where the text misrepresented here actually appears, at Articles for deletion/Frank William. --Jerzy•t 10:18, 28 February 2009 (UTC)
 * This complaint, not about my words but its misrepresentation of them, and also declining to quote them so i speak for myself, is also a violation of WP:NPA, as it is not an argument about the topic under discussion but about my supposed intentions. (Please note that i struck thru the phrases that make it appear that the nom in this AfD process is the target of the falsehoods stated, but avoided any strikethru that would merely label falsehoods, lest it distract from the crucial point of mis-stated identity.) Most importantly among to the falsehoods, i did in fact say
 * ... but i have to also reflect on the purpose of these pages. Are they not primarily a diffuse sort of vanity page, of the variety suggested in John Jacob Jingleheimer Schmidt?
 * which does not concern good faith, since both ignorance of WP:N and misperception of one's own vanity as something else are common, and neither is likely to involve bad faith. --Jerzy•t 10:18, 28 February 2009 (UTC)


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