Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Pavel Hlava


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. The keep arguments are not particularly policy based and the delete arguments appear relatively well grounded in policy. There is some consensus towards a merge but no target has emerged. I'm happy to undelete for a merge if a consensus for a destination subsequently emerges. Spartaz Humbug! 15:24, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

Pavel Hlava

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The subject is not notable but for one action; has no prior or subsequent notable achievements Ohconfucius  ¡digame! 02:34, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete This seems like pretty classic/clear WP:BLP1E to me. Note how the existing references -- and the article itself -- don't cover the article's subject at all, just his one accomplishment. I think opening his own bar does not quite qualify as a second accomplishment/event :). ɠǀɳ̩ςεΝɡ  bomb  02:49, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete This is instructive, as the Naudet brothers are notable because of the in-depth ongoing coverage of their September 11 video, whereas this person in contrast clearly is a case of WP:BLP1E. Cullen328 (talk) 05:08, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep The Naudet brothers video coverage is not "ongoing" coverage.  The last time their video was publicly broadcast (on CBS) was in 2002.  The Naudet video was their "one accomplishment".  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.249.53.116 (talk) 05:40, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment The IP editor is incorrect about the Naudet brothers film 9/11. An updated version was broadcast on CBS on September 10, 2006 to commemorate the 5th anniversary of the attack.  The raw video was also a significant source document analyzed and discussed in the 9/11 Commission Report, published in 2004.  It has been analyzed in depth in reports published by the New York City Fire Department, as it documents the activities of their senior command staff in the lobby of the World Trade Center that day.  The significance of their video far transcends "one event". Cullen328 (talk) 06:23, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment While this is not notable enough for an article, could the incident be merged into another article? Ryan Vesey (talk) 06:33, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 15:45, 14 April 2011 (UTC)

 Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, TigerShark (talk) 10:48, 22 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment The Hlava video was first broadcast on Sunday, September 7, 2003 on the program "This Week with George Stephanopoulos". Stephanopoulos had in the studio as a scheduled guest the then Secretary of State Colin Powell.  The Hlava video was touted by Stephanopoulos as an "exclusive" to ABC News.  The video led off that Sunday morning's broadcast.  After it was over, Secretary Powell commented to Stephanopoulos and the television viewers that because of that imagery shown on the Hlava tape that that was the reason the United States was in Iraq.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.249.53.116 (talk) 01:53, 15 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

 Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Acather96 (talk) 06:57, 30 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Delete, or merge the key points into other 9/11 articles - WP:BLP1E provides the specific example of the man who videotaped the Rodney King beating who doesn't have his own page. While 9/11 was of course of more significance, I think the principle of the event not the person still holds here. Moreover this particular recording was not produced until well after the event so had no impact on the public consciousness at the time.Asnac (talk) 07:22, 30 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete. Lack of notability. Keb25 (talk) 08:16, 1 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep With the recent capture of Osama bin Laden, 9/11 news items are in the forefront of public discussion.  Also with the approach of the 10th anniversary of the 9/11 attacks, anything describing the attacks is of newsworthy interest.  Hlava captured both planes hitting the towers on a single section of video tape.  His unique imagery is of historical and media interest.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.74.186.251 (talk) 17:08, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep or Merge: The video's obviously well referenced, so the information should stay somewhere. We could rename it Hlava film, or some other made up Wikipedia term. I don't really want to try to merge it into the main September 11 attacks article.  Where else would it be appropriate? Buddy431 (talk) 00:31, 6 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete or merge per BLP1E; all coverage relates to the 9/11 video.  Sandstein   07:03, 8 May 2011 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.