Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Pawandeep Rajan (2nd nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was redirect to Indian Idol. Black Kite (talk) 06:05, 20 April 2022 (UTC)

Pawandeep Rajan
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This subject doesn't meet GNG. Most of the coverage is in unreliable sources and subjective guideline WP:NSINGER isn't met likewise. Though, per WP:REALITYBIO, redirecting this to the article on series is permitted but I'd feel deletion as the better option provided the promotional tone of this article. It had already been redirected (per AfD) in September. The AfD action was undone by and the work was later on taken care of by. I smell of UPE and COI around this page. Comments please! ─ The Aafī   (talk)|undefined  11:11, 28 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. ─  The Aafī   (talk)|undefined  11:11, 28 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Music-related deletion discussions. ─  The Aafī   (talk)|undefined  11:11, 28 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of India-related deletion discussions. ─  The Aafī   (talk)|undefined  11:11, 28 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete per norm. --Vaco98 (talk) 11:26, 28 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep Sources already cited in the article are sufficient for WP:GNG. -- Jayron 32 12:37, 28 March 2022 (UTC)
 * , How do the sources satisfy GNG? ─ The Aafī   (talk)|undefined  17:16, 28 March 2022 (UTC)
 * There are multiple sources, they are reliable, and they discuss the subject in sufficient detail. -- Jayron 32 18:08, 28 March 2022 (UTC)
 * There are five sources. Source 1 is from News18 and discusses the subject in some detail but lacks the name of the author, and I won't regard this as a reliable piece. There's nothing significant in Source 2 which routinely says that he has been awarded with some non-notable award. The third source is a significant promo-piece. This one mentions the subject in passing and the last source gives him a passing mention as well. That's to say we have just two sources that discuss him in "some detail" but "their reliability" is ambiguous and these sources do not pass WP:RS and WP:IS in my opinion. ─ The Aafī   (talk)|undefined  13:58, 29 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep : although news coverage is weak he has won The voice (Indian Version -2015) and Indian Idol (2021) so he meets the WP:MUSICBIO requirements. #9 states "Has won first, second or third place in a major music competition." Zeddedm (talk) 02:18, 31 March 2022 (UTC)
 * , "what-competition"? real or reality show? The Voice isn't anything significant and I don't feel these things bestow any sort of notability to their subjects. We don't have any policy that says "the winners of the 'reality TV shows' such as the Indian Idol are notable by default". I disagree. ─ The Aafī   (talk)|undefined  15:27, 31 March 2022 (UTC)
 * How could you not consider that 2 of the biggest Song contest shows in India not to be major awards? and we also do not have policy that says that these shows are not notable. Please note that both have Wiki pages, so it would show some significance. If they had no Wiki pages, you could make the argument that they are unknown awards. I Will stick to my KEEP vote. Let the admins decide based on both sides of the argument.Zeddedm (talk) 21:28, 1 April 2022 (UTC)
 * In Addition we could also make the argument that they meet Criteria #12 of WP:MUSICBIO "Has been a featured subject of a substantial broadcast segment across a national radio or television network." as part of those 2 shows. Zeddedm (talk) 21:30, 1 April 2022 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Sandstein   20:51, 4 April 2022 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Spartaz Humbug! 06:21, 12 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete as per nom. - Hatchens (talk) 11:01, 1 April 2022 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Delete, pending evidence of non-trivial coverage from reliable publications. Regards, Yamaguchi先生 (talk) 22:28, 12 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Indian Idol: Several sources are just click-bait articles or interviews, which isn't helpful for notability. The COI / UPE concerns around the article creator are definitely affecting my view, but with most of the sources being tied to India Idol 12, so redirect to the India Idol article.  Ravensfire  (talk) 14:34, 13 April 2022 (UTC)


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