Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Peace-bonding (2nd nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   merge to Science fiction convention. The merge target isn't clearly signposted so use your imagination folks Spartaz Humbug! 15:44, 1 June 2011 (UTC)

Peace-bonding
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This topic is not notable. The vast majority of the article is unreferenced, and the main Google Books source which the last AfD was predicated on (interestingly, nobody has bothered to add it into the article) clearly does not contain the significant coverage which is required, since it doesn't address the topic of peace-bonding "directly and in detail." ╟─ Treasury Tag ►  consulate  ─╢ 08:17, 10 May 2011 (UTC)  Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:43, 17 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete, this isn't really much more than a long dicdef in this form. (Willing to reconsider if there's substantial rewriting before the end of the AfD)--SarekOfVulcan (talk) 16:52, 10 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep, although I'm sad to see that this never got the much-needed revision after the last AFD. In addition to the source in the article and the other mentioned by the nominator, there is also a passage by Pournelle that I mentioned in the first AFD.  I do not have access to that source at this time, and the text is not available online, but he discusses the topic in the context of conventioneering history.  I remain convinced that the 1980s fantasy/convention fanzines have a wider discussion of this history; there was at one point considerable debate over how to accommodate armed costumes without creating a public safety hazard, and such sources are the likeliest place to find documentation of it.  However, they were not in general well preserved or well-indexed, and I have not had success in that regard.  A more typically historical reference is the discussion of friðbond (with several spelling variants) in several Icelandic sagas, as discussed in this book (pp.194-185) and several other sources.  There is some suggestion online that a similar practice may have been instituted in Spain during the duello period, but I'm still looking for reliable documentation there.  Regardless, although there do not appear to be any sources dedicated to the topic in the main, that's not a requirement under the notability guideline. Serpent&#39;s Choice (talk) 16:36, 11 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Indeed. The requirement is actually that multiple reliable sources give the subject significant coverage, discussing it directly and in detail. That simply does not seem to be the case here. ╟─ Treasury Tag ►  most serene  ─╢ 19:11, 11 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

 Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:56, 24 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Merge into some larger article such as Science fiction convention or Cosplay pending improvement. The custom and concept certainly exist so turning the topic into a redlink would be unhelpful to our readership. Colonel Warden (talk) 06:52, 18 May 2011 (UTC)
 * The current article content is worth having and could certainly be referenced better than at present - bit would really work better as a section of an article, in something like Weapons policy (conventions), than as a free-standing one (peace-bonding is one, but not the only, solution to the problem it addresses). However, as that article doesn't currently exist, I would suggest, in order of desirability, expand and move this article into such a more general article, merge per Colonel Warden if a suitable article can be agreed on, or weak keep. PWilkinson (talk) 00:35, 24 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Comment if this is deleted, it should redirect to Peace bond (Canada). 65.95.13.213 (talk) 05:30, 24 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Merge as above, not useful for readers in its current form Shii (tock) 12:01, 24 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment if it is merged, a disambiguation page should replace it, instead of a redirect, unless it redirects to the Canadian article, where a hatnote could be added. 65.95.13.213 (talk) 04:26, 28 May 2011 (UTC)


 * Keep or Merge I actually came to this article through a Google search and it was useful to me as I didn't know what the dickens the practice peace bonding was, now I do. Given that the purpose of WP is to educate and that's what this article does so I would suggest that a straight delete to be a bad outcome.  If it's insufficiently notable to retain it's own article it should at the very least be merged into another and redirected/disambiguated. Xmp (talk) 23:21, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
 * So WP:ITSUSEFUL then? ╟─ Treasury Tag ►  Not-content  ─╢ 07:22, 1 June 2011 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.