Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Pedestrian (band)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   keep.  kur  ykh   07:28, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

Pedestrian (band)

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does not appear to be notable per WP:NOTE or WP:MUSIC. -- Gmatsuda (talk) 02:12, 17 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Weak keep, we got some valid source.-- Free way  8  03:03, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete Fails WP:MUSIC pretty cleanly. RayAYang (talk) 04:45, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions.   -- RayAYang (talk) 04:46, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete. Doesn't have third-party reference sources satisfying WP:MUSIC. --DAJF (talk) 09:25, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep - Now appears to satisfy notability requirements. --DAJF (talk) 07:30, 21 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete I don't see those "valid sources" that Freewayguy mentioned. This was already deleted once via PROD. Beeblebrox (talk) 22:44, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete, article fails to establish notability as per Keep, passes WP:MUSIC, now subject to multiple non-trivial published independent works.   Esradekan Gibb    "Talk" 00:05, 20 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment – Just now I've added more sources. There's an article on CNNMoney.com, a bunch of brief mentions for their tour with Our Lady Peace (mentioned in multiple newspapers, all of which note that band leader Joel Shearer also joined that band as a touring guitarist), and a mention on Actress Archives about Shearer dating a famous Hollywood actress. Taken together, it might be enough to barely squeak by our notability guidelines. Paul Erik  (talk) (contribs) 03:41, 20 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment: Why would a band member's social life make the band notable? -- Gmatsuda (talk) 04:04, 20 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Oh, I was not meaning to put forth the position that him dating a famous actress makes the band notable. Not at all. Sorry that it came across that way. I was saying that multiple non-trivial mentions in independent sources might make this band notable as per WP:GNG, and in my comments above I just wanted to provide some context for those mentions. Paul Erik  (talk) (contribs) 05:38, 20 October 2008 (UTC)
 * OK. But from what I can tell, the band still doesn't meet the criteria under WP:MUSIC. -- Gmatsuda (talk) 05:55, 20 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Most of those new sources aren't properly linked, so we can't actually see them anyway, but the one that is looks pretty trivial to me. Beeblebrox (talk) 17:09, 20 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Yes, they are not linked because they are not available online. WP:MUSIC (criterion #1) gives examples of "trivial" as being akin to a directory listing—such as a listing of a performance date—so the CNNMoney.com article is a step up from that. The others are brief but nontrivial, as they are not merely directory-like listings, and they allow for some verifiable content to be added to the article. Paul Erik  (talk) (contribs) 21:45, 20 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Keep: Sources & 3rd party reference concerns -- I think this is satisfied; there are several independent sources and most of these are from newspapers/online news sources. Notability concerns -- I have added 2 sources which may help establish a bit of notability (thecurrentonline.com article and thedelimagazine.com award).  Conflict of interest concerns -- The article is composed of factual information and there are now references. I don't see the basis for this...    Faninor 07:10, 21 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Fabrictramp  |  talk to me  00:18, 22 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Relisting comment -- the article changed substantially since most of the delete !votes. Looks like it's heading strongly towards keep now, but it should probably have a couple more days to make sure.-- Fabrictramp |  talk to me  00:20, 22 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep - looks like the concerns have been resolved, now appears to meet WP:MUSIC. Shell    babelfish 01:01, 22 October 2008 (UTC)


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