Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Pemphero Mphande


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Nobody has put forward a convincing policy-based argument for keeping the argument. I'm sorry that people think there is systemic political bias at play, and am happy to restore the article to userspace or a draft on request. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont)  14:01, 6 November 2021 (UTC)

Pemphero Mphande

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An article previously moved to draft by but subsequently moved back to mainspace by the article creator. The coverage referenced in the article largely concerns campaigns with which the subject has associated. The subject does not appear notable by the WP:POLITICIAN (party youth director and unsuccessful electoral candidate) or WP:AUTHOR (author of a book with self-publishing co-producers Europe Press) criteria. AllyD (talk) 12:33, 6 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Authors-related deletion discussions. AllyD (talk) 12:33, 6 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Politicians-related deletion discussions. AllyD (talk) 12:33, 6 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Africa-related deletion discussions. AllyD (talk) 12:33, 6 October 2021 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Comment: For anyone seeking to check Google coverage of the subject, it is worth noting that at least one site triggers Trojan downloads which were (I hope) caught by my AV. AllyD (talk) 12:39, 6 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete - meets neither WP:GNG or WP:NPOLITICIAN.  Onel 5969  TT me 13:40, 6 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Comment:The article is for a notable person in my country Malawi even if you can check on google my country is small in Africa everyone knows him and deserves to be here if you can check on google you will find people searching for his Wikipedia so please also look at the country before delete you even check on his good news section . phalombe (talk) 8:59, 7 October 2021 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗  plicit  14:39, 13 October 2021 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, – filelakeshoe (t / c) 🐱 08:21, 21 October 2021 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: the last one. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Less Unless (talk) 17:43, 29 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete, minimal coverage in sources, nothing better found in WP:BEFORE search. Not elected, so doesn't meet WP:NPOL, and the sources about his books are about the release/pre-order, nothing to satisfy WP:NAUTHOR. --bonadea contributions talk 18:48, 2 November 2021 (UTC)


 * Comment:The article is from Malawi you have to understand Malawi is not a developed country check the other articles from Malawi the person is a public figure and deserves to be here if you can check the references non of them is paid there all for trusted sites Malawi24 and Nyasa Times. phalombe (talk) 12:00, 3 November 2021 (GMT+2)


 * Comment: I find it unfair that this feels like targeting public figures from poor African countries because they don't have as much digital trail. phalombe (talk) 12:07, 3 November 2021 (GMT+2)


 * Comment: Even if his book was published by a publisher, you would unlikely find it online because these publishers don't have an online presence. Self publishing is allowed and acceptable. His book has been cited by reliable news sources in Malawi. You can't hold a Malawian to the same standards as a European. This is why we, African countries don't develop because you tend to look down on our efforts. This person is now the most celebrated Malawian and that is in the article is well referenced by sources that this platform accepts such as Malawi24 and Nyasa Times. Unless, we also want to discredit them. He has chosen not to put the book on Amazon but it is available in Malawian book stores. phalombe (talk) 12:12, 3 November 2021 (GMT+2)


 * Notability has nothing to do with an online presence or a digital trail, and authors who use Amazon as a distribution platform are no more notable than those who don't. Self-published books will only be notable if there is a significant number of independent sources writing about the book. Such sources do not have to be online, but there has to be more than a brief mention of the book. --bonadea contributions talk 10:34, 3 November 2021 (UTC)


 * What kind of notability are you looking for? Wikipedia accepts for Malawi citation from Nyasa Times, from Malawi24. This book, What You See at Sunrise has been cited in these papers. Further to that, it is also cited in Malawi's biggest newspaper, the Nation. This is how far notable one goes in Malawi. So again, what kind of notability are you looking for? phalombe (talk) 12:45, 3 November 2021 (GMT+2)


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