Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Pencak silat at the 2015 Southeast Asian Games – Women's 65 kg


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Consensus to delete seems clear. While there is some talk about redirecting or merging, it looks like the critical information is already there and there hasn't been proof that these would be valid search terms. As such, I am simply deleting all. Dennis Brown - 2&cent; 23:43, 8 July 2015 (UTC)

Pencak silat at the 2015 Southeast Asian Games – Women's 65 kg

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Boyconga278 (talk) 17:33, 12 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep: Hi, I'm the creator of this page. I believe that the editor nominated the article for deletion prematurely. I had just created the page at that time and was obviously going to edit and add in more details afterwards (well it seemed pretty obvious). The content that I had wanted to add in was already commented, but I guess the nominator thought that the page was incomplete. I've already added in details into the page, so I hope that the page can be kept. Thanks! Danialrosli (talk) 19:10, 12 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Comment: @: What was your rationale for nominating this page for deletion? BU Rob13 (talk) 18:15, 13 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Asia-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 19:46, 13 June 2015 (UTC)
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 * Delete I think all of the individual event pages for this competition should be deleted. None of them have any significant independent coverage. These divisions seem even less notable than the divisions at the Asian wrestling championships that were all deleted (see Articles for deletion/2014 Asian Wrestling Championships – Men's freestyle 57 kg). Even the main article (Pencak silat at the 2015 Southeast Asian Games), which gives all the medal winners, has no significant independent coverage. Jakejr (talk) 02:31, 15 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete I agree that all of these sub sub pages should be deleted using the same arguments that were given in  Articles for deletion/2014 Asian Wrestling Championships – Men's freestyle 57 kg.  WikiPedia is not a WP:NOTSTATSBOOK with few or any of the athletes being notable.   Pencak silat at the 2015 Southeast Asian Games is as low as it should go and it should be pointed out that other events  see (Category:Wushu at the 2015 Southeast Asian Games) are overly paged also.Peter Rehse (talk) 07:17, 15 June 2015 (UTC)

I am also nominating the following related pages for reasons described above:Peter Rehse (talk) 10:24, 15 June 2015 (UTC)


 * Redirect all nominated articles to Pencak silat at the 2015 Southeast Asian Games. Per the reasons of Jakejr and Peter Rehse. Optakeover  (Talk)  19:22, 17 June 2015 (UTC)
 * There are 2 problems with a redirect. First, these article names are unlikely search targets. Second, the main article has no significant independent coverage and could also be deleted since it fails to meet WP:GNG so redirecting there doesn't look like a good idea.Jakejr (talk) 14:04, 20 June 2015 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: Note that the additional articles were added to the nomination on 10:24, 15 June 2015. North America1000 04:51, 19 June 2015 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 04:51, 19 June 2015 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Delete as per above. The additional information in the articles beyond what exists at the Pencak silat at the 2015 Southeast Asian Games does not warrant an additional article, let alone a dozen. WP:NOTSTATSBOOK certainly applies. I disagree with creating redirects. The chance of someone typing "Pencak silat at the 2015 Southeast Asian Games - Men's 85 kg" into the search bar is negligible. It's not a redirect that would be plausibly useful. ~ RobTalk 07:22, 19 June 2015 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, JAaron95  &#40; Talk &#41;  04:38, 27 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Merge content for all 13 individual / team events into Pencak silat at the 2015 Southeast Asian Games or delete. There is no notable content for the individual events.--Rpclod (talk) 04:51, 27 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete I agree with user Rob's comments--both about WP:NOTSTATSBOOK and that the existing article titles are unlikely searches so that a redirect doesn't seem very useful. User Jakejr also makes a good point about the failure of the main article to meet WP:GNG. Since the main article already contains all of the medal winners, I don't see that there's anything else of value in the individual event articles that needs to be added to the main article--making a merge also seem like an incorrect outcome. Papaursa (talk) 00:32, 29 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete all None of these meet WP:GNG. Mdtemp (talk) 16:53, 2 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep all This is consistent with other continental competitions, we show individual event details. Compare with Athletics at the 2011 All-Africa Games Trackinfo (talk) 07:35, 7 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Many of those should go to - this is not WP:NOTSTATSBOOK.Peter Rehse (talk) 07:43, 7 July 2015 (UTC)


 * Delete These pages should reflect the amount of information, not be created blindly for every possible sport. There is not enough material here to justify it.  DGG (at NYPL) -- reply  here 23:40, 8 July 2015 (UTC)


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