Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Penelope Fillon


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result was redirect to François Fillon. Redirect is a type of keep, and it has been pointed out that the content of this article is already available at the target article. Suggest reinstating as a standalone article when and if more sourced information about her (independent of her husband) is made avaiable.  Ark yan  &#149; (talk) 21:18, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

Penelope Fillon

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Fails Notability (people) - any claim to notability based purely on association, in this case with husband. Mais oui! 11:36, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of France-related deletions.   -- Mais oui! 11:41, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Wales-related deletions.   -- Mais oui! 11:41, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Redirect to François Fillon, this entire text is already in that article.  Eliminator JR Talk  13:24, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Redirect to François Fillon per EliminatorJR for now, with no prejudice to creating an article if her term as the PM's wife leads to her doing something notable and worthy of inclusion in her own right.  young  american  (ahoy hoy) 15:38, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep Wife of the Prime minister of France V1t 21:42, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete, I checked the six predecessors of Fillon and none of their spouses have articles. The wife of the President is notable as a French First Lady equivalent, but the wives of Prime Ministers seem to play no public role by default. --Dhartung | Talk 06:01, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
 * I would also accept a merge and redirect to her husband's article.--Dhartung | Talk 21:09, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Redirect to François Fillon. Her husband is notable. She is not notable by herself. However it's appropraite for an article on a major national leader like Fillon to have some mention of his family in his article. Dorange 10:24, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Redirect as she was in the UK press yesterday and may at some stage become notable in her own right. Tim! 11:20, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment That's entirely and solely because she's Welsh by birth, not because she's done anything.--Dhartung | Talk 21:09, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep Wife of the Prime Minister of France... Nze 12:05, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep, by the logic of the nomination Cherie Blair, Norma Major and Denis Thatcher should be deleted. --Philip Stevens 10:58, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment No - they all pass WP:BIO in their own right. She may do at some point, but she doesn't now.  Eliminator JR  Talk  11:57, 20 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Keep this page. Mme. Fillon was interviewed by the Daily Telegraph and other British media and has also attracted media attention in the U.S. Moreover, given the question marks about Cecilia Sarkozy's relationship with her husband, Mme. Fillon is already something of a de facto first lady. The fact that she of Welsh background and English speaking also greatly raises her profile without any action on her part - think Jacqueline Kennedy speaking French and Spanish on state visits. WikiFlier 16:40, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep as second lady of France and sole subject of many press press articles this last few days, interviewed in Libération and — if I read above — in UK press . Therefore notable. Hektor 19:41, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep: she is notable not only as France's "second lady" but also as the first British-born spouse of a French prime minister. -- Picapica 20:01, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment: Although I stand by my belief that a redirect is the best option, I would greatly prefer a "keep" over a "delete."  young  american  (ahoy hoy) 15:33, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.