Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Pennsylvania Punch Bowl


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The result was   keep. Davewild (talk) 13:49, 15 January 2011 (UTC)

Pennsylvania Punch Bowl

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Non-notable college comedy magazine. Only claim to notability is a "minor controversy," which is only referenced by a blog, the college newspaper, and by WP:SELFREF. --GrapedApe (talk) 05:28, 8 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep: I think we should be cautious about deleting a magazine that has been published for more than 100 years. The Ezra Pound reference is impressive.  The article itself is not great and no doubt can be improved but only 3 of 7 sources are self published.  I have to admit that the notability guidelines for magazines are not too clear.  There's little at WP:BK.  But a quick Google News search found several New York Times and Philadelphia Inquirer articles about the magazine.  And Google Books shows many, many quotes.  I also noticed that there are about 30 college humor magazines on WP.  If this one is deleted, to be consistent we'd probably have to delete most of the others as well.  Logical Cowboy (talk) 06:39, 8 January 2011 (UTC)
 * That last sentence is a common misconception and a complete fallacy. It we are to be consistent, we consistently apply our criteria, which are to keep articles on the thoroughly documented and known, and delete articles on the undocumented and unknown.  That knowledge is lumpy, uneven, and unfair is not an encyclopaedia's problem to alter.  Uncle G (talk) 13:58, 12 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Weak keep Ironic timing for the nomination, same week as the Orange Bowl, the Sugar Bowl, the Cotton Bowl and the obscure ones like the "Compass Bowl" and the "Kraft Fight Hunger Bowl". Good news, it's not another NCAA football game, it's a college humor magazine.  I think that it's likely to meet our standards for notability.  While it's not as famous as the Harvard Lampoon, it's been published by students at an Ivy League school for over a century.    Mandsford 22:22, 8 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Schools-related deletion discussions.  —• Gene93k (talk) 19:29, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Literature-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 19:30, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep -- I fixed a couple of dead links in the article, added a source, and corrected the founding date to 1899. As Logical Cowboy observes, there are many hits in Google News, including the New York Times and Philadelphia Inquirer. Some of these GNews hits are for extremely lame jokes from the Punch Bowl that were reprinted in other papers, but there is no accounting for taste. There are enough sources  to improve the article as soon as anyone has time. The flurry over their 2008 'diversity' issue may have attracted some wider news coverage and if so, is interesting enough to deserve expansion.  EdJohnston (talk) 15:17, 13 January 2011 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.