Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Penny Birch


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The result was delete.  Sandstein  17:59, 5 June 2020 (UTC)

Penny Birch

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Article was first redirected with summary "non-notable if indeed she exists at all", and then incorrectly nominated for speedy deletion G8 ("dependent page of a page which does not exist, has been deleted, or is itself currently tagged for speedy deletion"), which was false as well.

The author (or nom de plume) clearly exists, you don't get a page at Penguin Books for no reason.

However, I can't find evidence that she has received significant attention, so she probably isn't notable (and as suggested may be an invented name to publish anonymous stories by different writers, which is in itself not a reason to delete). Perhaps there is some good redirect target, or perhaps she has received attention in more "specialized" sources; otherwise deletion is the right decision. But by the right method, not through the backdoor. Fram (talk) 10:18, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
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 * Delete clearly not enough sourcing to demonstrate the subject is a notable writer. Also not enough sourcing to demonstrate it is just one individual instead of a group of collaborating writers.John Pack Lambert (talk) 12:56, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Given that this was a redirect for over a decade, isn't WP:RFD a more appropriate venue? We'd certainly frown on someone converting an article to a redirect in order to nominate it there, though I suppose the inverse means greater visibility rather than less... Either way, delete: I haven't been able to find any reviews, or any other significant coverage, and neither of the other two articles that mention the name would be a sensible target for this to be redirected to (indeed, those mentions should be removed if this is deleted). – Arms & Hearts (talk) 20:25, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Authors-related deletion discussions. Coolabahapple (talk) 00:19, 31 May 2020 (UTC)
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 * Comment The article was, until recently, a redirect to Nexus Books, Birch's publisher. Penny Birch is certainly a pseudonym, and could be a collective pseudonym. I can't find any biographical information in reliable sources, although I did find a few citations to an essay which appears to be by the same author, "Squiddly Diddly: The Relationship of the Octopus to Female Sexuality." pburka (talk) 14:05, 31 May 2020 (UTC)


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