Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Penny James


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The result was redirect to Miss Colorado USA.  MBisanz  talk 18:16, 11 September 2016 (UTC)

Penny James

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This article is basically all sourced to James' websites, which is not enough to pass GNG. THe one other source is from YouTube, also not reliable. John Pack Lambert (talk) 04:15, 1 September 2016 (UTC)
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 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. North America1000 04:44, 1 September 2016 (UTC)
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 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Beauty pageants-related deletion discussions. North America1000 04:44, 1 September 2016 (UTC)
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 * ( addend: Possibly) Redirect to Miss Colorado USA as a valid search term, and the subject is mentioned there. North America1000 04:45, 1 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Artists-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 08:26, 1 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been added to the WikiProject Pornography list of deletions. • Gene93k (talk) 08:27, 1 September 2016 (UTC)


 * Redirect per NA1K, Valid search term. – Davey 2010 Talk 22:08, 1 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Miss Colorado USA -- no sources and only notable (if at all) for one event. K.e.coffman (talk) 22:54, 1 September 2016 (UTC)


 * Keep: There is now a New York Times source. Oppose redirect, that is a list that has no context on any of the listed people, such as the five appearances on the cover of Playboy during its heyday in the 60s. B137 (talk) 16:30, 2 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Comment -- the NYT is a passing mention (just one):
 * Other people want to know how to care for certain plants. Penny James, a sculptor in Shohola, Pa., who uses live plants in art installations, makes four-poster beds out of trees. She needed to know what kind of vining plants would continue to grow indoors.
 * A mention in the press is not a license for an encyclopedia entry, per WP:NOTNEWS. The coverage needs to be significant and in-depth. K.e.coffman (talk) 16:35, 2 September 2016 (UTC)


 * Comment The list does give some context. It could be expanded to give more context. The fact that most even current boxes in the list are blank does not need to remain the case.John Pack Lambert (talk) 16:52, 5 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Miss Colorado USA and include relevant material there. K.e.coffman (talk) 21:23, 5 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep Beauty pageant, semifinalist at Miss USA, many, many Playboy covers. --SamWinchester000 (talk) 17:51, 7 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Comment There is an RFC with possible implications for this article here Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Beauty_Pageants.12:54, 10 September 2016 (UTC)


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