Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Penrith City Chiefs


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The result was delete. –  Juliancolton  &#124; Talk 23:04, 24 April 2017 (UTC)

Penrith City Chiefs

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Does not meet notability guidelines;no evidence given of "the subject of significant coverage in secondary sources" or "Deep coverage provides an organization with a level of attention that extends well beyond routine announcements and makes it possible to write more than a very brief, incomplete stub about an organization". My search could not find such sources. 331dot (talk) 16:44, 8 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Organizations-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 18:50, 8 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of American football-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 18:50, 8 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Australia-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 18:50, 8 April 2017 (UTC)

The subject matter of this article occurred in the pre-internet age and at a time when American football in Australia was in its infancy. The league has been growing rapidly in recent times and as such, the history of the sport should be preserved. There are numerous contemporary, secondary sources in the form of newspaper articles which are currently being collated and are proposed to be added to this article. The subject matter, whilst appearing to constitute an absence of significant coverage in secondary sources, forms part of the history of Gridiron NSW and is therefore significant. There are two facebook pages dedicated to the Penrith City Chiefs, namely "Penrith City Chiefs - 3x State Champions!" and 1994 Penrith City Chiefs" and it is clear that a large quantity of contemporaneous material exists in support of the article's content. It is respectfully submitted that an opportunity for development of the article should be allowed prior to any premature deletion AUSSportsHistory (talk) 01:52, 9 April 2017 (UTC)
 * It's not required that sources be online, just documented, and when I tagged the page, no sources were given. I think a Facebook page would likely not be considered a reliable source as it is user-editable. This youth team seems relatively minor in terms of organization notability.  If it was part of a larger league or development of a sport, it could be mentioned as part of that larger subject- perhaps merging this with one of those pages. 331dot (talk) 02:21, 9 April 2017 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Delete - no assertion of notability outside of the perplex of sites such as Facebook and Myspace, and therefore is completely non-notable outside of the bounds of Wikipedia which does not constitute notability at all. — Mythdon ( talk  •  contribs ) 03:46, 10 April 2017 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Kurykh (talk) 21:43, 16 April 2017 (UTC)


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