Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Penultima


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The result was speedy keep. Withdrawn; apparently Google search didn't include CECV in results. (non-admin closure) power~enwiki ( π, ν ) 18:13, 17 February 2019 (UTC)

Penultima

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No notability for this chess variant; the only reference is a newsletter of the Variant Chess society. I found a few message boards where people tried to play this, but nothing that establishes notability. power~enwiki ( π, ν ) 03:05, 16 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Games-related deletion discussions.  ~Ruyaba~   {talk}  04:16, 16 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Sports-related deletion discussions.  ~Ruyaba~   {talk}  04:16, 16 February 2019 (UTC)


 * Comment. It has a paragraph in the CECV, §38.11 Games in which the players have different roles: --IHTS (talk) 04:59, 16 February 2019 (UTC)


 * Keep. We now have two sources in the article.  The Classified Encyclopedia of Chess Variants is presumably a reliable source, but not accessible online.  Variant Chess describes itself as the Journal of the British Chess Variant Society, not a newsletter as stated in the nom, and is set out that way.  It may not be scholarly peer reviewed, but it seems to meet our usual criteria for news sources; it has an editorial board, articles are from named writers, and it does not accept paid content.  The article in question is in-depth (two pages) and shows that the variant is (or was) actively played, rather than just made up by someone as an interesting exercise.  I also found two brief entries in book sources: UNBORED Games and Tabletop Game Design for Video Game Designers. That seems enough to me to get it past the WP:N. SpinningSpark 09:26, 17 February 2019 (UTC)
 * FYI, CECV is avail online here. --IHTS (talk) 10:24, 17 February 2019 (UTC)


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