Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Pepperoni Pig


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. I recreated the redirect to The Dandy; there was no verified content so there was nothing to merge. Drmies (talk) 22:33, 22 November 2011 (UTC)

Pepperoni Pig

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Unremarkable cartoon character. Contested redirect. No significant coverage. Google search on "Pepperoni Pig" dandy shows only 118 unique results, none from reliable sources - primarily primary sources, fan sites, and other wikis. Article creator has vowed to edit-war to keep the article, so I'm bringing this here for resolution. MikeWazowski (talk) 20:36, 13 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Merge with list of Dandy strips. Eopsid (talk) 20:49, 13 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete The Google results above show a few blogs which may not be reliable sources by Wikipedia standards. I found nothing at Gooble (ETA) Google Book search. Does not appear to pass notability. Edison (talk) 20:50, 13 November 2011 (UTC)


 * Redirect - with The Dandy as a relevant search term. → Σ  τ  c . 20:53, 13 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep I want this article to be kept, it is a notable strip in a well-known comic. What more do you want? From Beanscene (talk) 21:22, 13 November 2011 (UTC) — Beanscene (talk&#32;• contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
 * Comment - why is it notable? You give no real reason other than your say-so, which carries no weight in this discussion. As for appearing in The Dandy, you should also read WP:NOTINHERITED - just because it appears in the magazine doesn't confer it any special status. MikeWazowski (talk) 21:31, 13 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment- Trust me, son, i'm an expert on comics, which you might not know about. In my opinion, Pepperoni Pig is notable, so there. Beanscene (talk) 21:54, 13 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment - Ah, the condescending response with no valid reasons. A really effective argument . MikeWazowski (talk) 22:14, 13 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Comics and animation-related deletion discussions.  • Gene93k (talk) 23:36, 13 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment - I'll use what I call the "three buttock test" (named after a Monty Python sketch), which is basically, anyone anywhere on the internet can say "Trust me, son, I'm an expert on comics", but if you can't prove it easily, nobody will believe you. I can easily say "Trust me, son, I'm an expert on nuclear physics", but it doesn't mean I am, and I've been on the net long enough to know there are so many liars, charlatans and con artists out there, that's it's safer to assume somebody's lying if they have no proof, as it's more likely to be the case. --Ritchie333 (talk) 16:50, 14 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment I have cupboards full of Beanos and Dandys from 1994 onwards to today, and I know lots of obscure details. Did you know in the 2007 Annual story "Teacher & Head:Parent's Night", one of the books Teacher is balancing on his head has the artist's signiture, Kev F, but oddly written in the style used by The Dandy in 2004-2007. Beanscene (talk) 18:18, 14 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete - I'm sorry, but you did not answer my question. How can you prove you are a recognised expert on this? Would I be able to verify your claims by contacting D C Thompson & Co? I have copies of The Beano stretching back to 1979 in my parents' loft, but this means nothing. --Ritchie333 (talk) 18:37, 14 November 2011 (UTC)
 * *Keep By saying that very obscure fact, that was meant to confirm I know more about comics than most people do. True, it only looks like that particular font, but I know plenty other obscure facts. In the 1998 Dandy Annual Hector Spectre story, the dog is speaking through a speech bubble in the first panel but in the last panel it's a thought bubble. Happy now? Beanscene (talk) 18:55, 14 November 2011 (UTC) — Beanscene (talk&#32;• contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
 * *Keep Again, I am doing this to make you understand! I am entitled to my opinion more than most! I am a- n- ex- pert. I have just said this in the style of the french chef trying to get Desperate Dan to eat buffalo poopsies, in an issue of the Dandy Xtreme in 2008, this man was also featured on the back cover of the issue dated 28th May 2011. Beanscene (talk) 19:00, 14 November 2011 (UTC) — Beanscene (talk&#32;• contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
 * Comment We could keep going like this all night (I used to have the T shirt that had Desperate Dan enter a "largest chin" contest and came second to a chimpanzee, I bought the first Beano Comic Library in 1982, which I think was King Dennis, though my memory is a little hazy, I remember Mike Read appearing under the 1986 "Gnasher's Missing" serial, I remember the "Somebody's after your smarties" Dennis and Gnasher advertising campaign in 1981), but anyway - you've been asked why this strip is notable several times, and every time you've evaded the answer and pulled some other bit of trivia to divert attention away from that. I'm afraid I'm going to come to the conclusion that you don't understand what I'm saying. Fair enough. --Ritchie333 (talk) 21:34, 14 November 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete - This comic-book character is simply not notable. If Beanscene refuses to have the article deleted then he should be blocked from editing for a few hours. --Madison-chan (talk) 00:17, 15 November 2011 (UTC)
 * *Keep I was just trying to tell you I know more about comics than you do, but you didnt heed me. Beanscene (talk) 17:46, 15 November 2011 (UTC)


 * Comment "This comic-book character is simply not notable." Hark who's talking! It's a COMIC. Not a book. Beanscene (talk) 17:47, 15 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment A comic book is just an American term for what we in the UK simply call a comic. So "comic-book character" is a perfectly valid description, Beanscene. The issue with this particular character is that he only made his debut a year ago, which is small fry in The Dandy's 74 year history. There are plenty of other famous Dandy characters without Wikipedia articles, so I won't be surprised to see it go, but if the article stays, that's fine by me too. Digifiend (talk) 20:45, 15 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Beanscene, please stop saying you're a "comic book expert" until you provide reliable sources saying you are an expert. I still believe this article should be deleted, BTW. --Madison-chan (talk) 14:58, 16 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Beanscene won't be joining us anymore - seems he was blocked as asockpuppet of another Dandy/Beano-related SPA. MikeWazowski (talk) 15:21, 16 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Can't this AFD be closed already? It's already been established that this comic book character/comic strip is not notable. --Madison-chan (talk) 23:39, 16 November 2011 (UTC)
 * no. First, it has not been proven non-notable; it has merely not yet been proven notable, Fortunately, we don't have to prove things non-notable to delete them, or we could almost never delete anything, We delete when nobody is able to show something is notable. It is perfectly possible that someone else may make an argument; occasionally someone will come with actual references or a sound argument at the last minute, which is why AfDs run  for 7 days.  DGG ( talk ) 01:38, 17 November 2011 (UTC)


 * Merge and redirect with Dandy - insufficiently notable for it's own article. --Joopercoopers (talk) 14:33, 21 November 2011 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.