Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Perimeter (EU Project)


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The result was   no consensus. –Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone  02:25, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

Perimeter (EU Project)

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No indication of notability for this project. The author noted in his edit summary while removing my PROD nomination, "This article is about a FP7 project" (Category:FP7_Projects), but I don't know that being undertaken by FP7 is deemed to confer automatic notability on a project, so I felt that my concern hadn't been addressed, and I decided to list the article here for discussion. —Largo Plazo (talk) 15:57, 24 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Keep I have checked the guidelines stated on the Category:FP7_Projects page and I looked at some of the project descriptions. After that I came to the conclusion that this project is relevant to be shown at Wikipedia. I agree that it is probably not a main criteria that the project is an FP7 project. But the project itself surly is relevant, as mobility is getting more important every day (just think about the current trend about Netbooks and iPhones). I personally believe that this article should stay in Wikipedia. I'm happy to work on the text, please give me hints about what you would like to see improved in the article. Haemmerlech (talk) 16:44, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
 * This isn't an article on mobility, so the notability of the topic of mobility isn't under discussion here. From "X is notable" it doesn't follow that every topic related to X is notable. CAD is a notable topic. It doesn't follow that a CAD app I create and make available for download is notable; it won't be unless and until it achieves such notability. WP:Notability is the source of guidelines for assessing or establishing the notability of a topic. —Largo Plazo (talk) 15:08, 28 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete as non notable. No independent reliable sources have been provided and none are obvious on a search. Nuttah (talk) 14:25, 28 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:18, 29 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Keep. There is precedent that EU FP5/6/7 projects are notable. Since these are mainly research projects they get very little media coverage but are cited in peer-reviewed papers. See Google Scholar. McWomble (talk) 06:27, 29 November 2008 (UTC)
 * I just looked at the Google Scholar search and found nothing. The word "perimeter" in each case was the generic word. As for precedent, it seems to me that the existence of such a precedent of that sort would be inconsistent with the guidelines, which make it quite clear that each topic's notability is independent established. Every item in a notable list isn't inherently notable; every item belonging to a notable category isn't inherently notable; every episode of a notable television series isn't inherently notable; etc. —Largo Plazo (talk) 07:41, 29 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Delete lots of projects receive EU funding, but it doesn't make them EU projects or exempt them from notability criteria. Blue-Haired Lawyer 20:14, 29 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Europe-related deletion discussions.   -- • Gene93k (talk) 03:51, 30 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Internet-related deletion discussions.   -- • Gene93k (talk) 03:51, 30 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete, I agree with Blue-Haired Lawyer. --MaNeMeBasat (talk) 07:46, 1 December 2008 (UTC)


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