Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Permutation (policy debate)


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The result was delete. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 08:41, 25 May 2017 (UTC)

Permutation (policy debate)

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The topic is incredibly specific and fails WP:GNG because any possible source is not independent from the subject. The GNG says that a topic must have received coverage from sources that are independent from the subject. There are plenty of websites and a couple books that discuss permutations in policy debate, but all of those websites and books are related to policy debate and therefore are not independent. The reason I didn't PROD this is that I want to get a consensus that my interpretation of the word "independent" is legitimate in this case. WP:INDEPENDENT discusses independence mostly as a form of protection against self-promotion or financial benefit, but in my AfD experience I've seen independence as pertaining to sources that don't solely cover policy debate or high school/college debate in general, and common sense certainly leads to that conclusion. Some of the information in this article would work well with a merger into the Policy debate article too, especially seeing as that article doesn't even include the word "permutation". I want to reiterate that I think this article is a pretty good deletion candidate, but I felt it necessary to check consensus concerning the independence of all available sources. For the record, the only source I could find that was independent in the sense I discussed above is what looks to be a memoir, link here. Icebob99 (talk) 22:32, 10 May 2017 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Lepricavark (talk) 01:30, 17 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete the term is jargon. The article is advice for high-school students participating in debate club. Power~enwiki (talk) 02:16, 17 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete as part of a how-to for competing in this style of debating. I'm not sure there's much chance of non-specialist sources covering such a specialised term, but I wouldn't go as far as to say that the "independence" of the sources is an issue. BigHaz - Schreit mich an 04:12, 17 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Logic-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 17:14, 23 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Games-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 17:14, 23 May 2017 (UTC)


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