Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Persecution of ancient Greek religion


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result was keep. Now that the second part of the article has been sourced, most of the deletion arguments have been countered. The article needs much work, and there is a merge proposal to resolve, but these are post-AfD editorial actions. TerriersFan 03:57, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

Persecution of ancient Greek religion
Obvious, unreferenced, original, and poorly-written essay here purely to push a particular point of view. Blatant content fork of somewhere-or-other. A rant that will not be missed. Moreschi Talk 18:03, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep Major Greek religious groups hve experienced many issues from the modern Greek government, Orthodox Greek Church, the Athens Olympics, etc. etc. BBC News, The Guardian, Herald Tribune, The Age etc. etc. Zidel333 18:24, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Don't disagree. I'm just saying that this article is not the way to address that. Moreschi Talk 18:44, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Are you suggesting then on creating a new article based on my and other refs about the contemporary religion's "persecution"? Frankly, I don't think this falls under Decline of Hellenistic polytheism as the Decline more or less was over and done with when modern pagans began to open practice again. but I'm willing to listen. Zidel333 18:50, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Merge into Decline of Hellenistic polytheism per suggestion on article page. This article begins with unsourced information about 'ancient times', and then skips to modern day. Otherwise should be rewritten as article about modern day Hellenistic religious freedom, per citations of Zidel333. Eliz81(talk)(contribs) 18:38, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Strong Delete obvious POV fork with no referneces. --PEAR (talk) 19:20, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete, alternatively split into ancient- and modern- parts (the current text looks unsalvageable, though). Pavel Vozenilek 19:36, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete. The article discusses two entirely different things, the introduction of Christianity in Ancient Greece and the present-day legal struggle of a fringe Hellenic revival group. There is a clear conflict of interest here and the article pushes its PoV through a totally skewed analysis of several sources (Greek law prohibits "proselytism" = need to "de-criminalize" ancient Greek religion? Huh?) --Targeman 19:54, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Merge There's not much here among the POV, but the first part's already covered by Decline of Hellenistic polytheism (which is no gem), and the last part can be boiled down to a paragraph at the end that attests that it's still around, albeit barely, in the 21st century.    Acroterion  (talk)  20:56, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep. The biggest problems I see with this article is the lack of early history and the gap between the Roman empire period and the modern period. Ancient Greek religion has faced several attempts to supress its practice, and I don't see why that shouldn't have an article seperate from the decline of hellenistic polytheism (since persecution of the ancient Greek religion has occured in periods before and after the main period of decline).(RookZERO 22:39, 6 August 2007 (UTC))
 * Weak keep, Edit and Rename There are actually two articles here, one that has no cites and should be deleted. The other is not so much about "persecution" (what's up with that?) but about modern-day people who state that they belive in Zeus, Hera, and the other Greek gods.  That one is sourced and is intriguing, if it is as notable as suggested.  Sorry to persecute the author, but why sandbag this with some complaint about polytheist persecution in ancient times?  It's like writing about Michael Vick, and then tossing in a section about animal cruelty in ancient Rome.  This one could be good, if you could decide what you want to write about.  Mandsford 23:23, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment personally, I think a better comparison would be an article on the history on animal cruelty, but which, newly created, only contained sections on Michael Vick and ancient rome. Some time to come up for the article's creators to come up with information from other times and places is not unreasonable, seeing as we all know its out there.(RookZERO 21:13, 12 August 2007 (UTC))


 * An obvious keep (or failing that merge (altough then the merged article probably need a better name since it's not about the declime, but the revival as well). As far as I can tell there are several sources given. Are we reading the same article? I have now fixed the references so they should be more obvious. // Liftarn
 * Merge into Decline of Hellenistic polytheism. There simply isn't enough information for an article. --Hemlock Martinis 22:08, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.