Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Person, woman, man, camera, TV (2nd nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was merge to Donald Trump in popular culture per WP:TRUMPNOT. (non-admin closure) ASTIG😎  (ICE T • ICE CUBE) 02:00, 23 April 2021 (UTC)

Person, woman, man, camera, TV
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Previous AfD closed as no consensus. As I expected, this thing that the former president said has no enduring notability. Wikipedia is not a newspaper, nor is it a repository for Trump controversies of the day. Time to move on. KidAd •  SPEAK  01:11, 16 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Merge into Donald Trump in popular culture, since the article primarily details pop culture/celebrity reactions to his use of the phrase. BD2412  T 01:38, 16 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Merge per the above. Not every word that comes out of Trump's mouth is worthy of an article. Lettlerhello • contribs 01:49, 16 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Internet-related deletion discussions.  Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 07:14, 16 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Politics-related deletion discussions.  Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 07:14, 16 April 2021 (UTC)


 * Merge per above, we can keep the information but I do think NOTNEWS applies to the stand alone article. SportingFlyer  T · C  09:11, 16 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep 16 sources. A lot of content, and it's not filler. Too much to move into an already-bloated Donald Trump in popular culture article. Leave it here. Benicio2020 (talk) 13:21, 16 April 2021 (UTC)
 * All the sources in the article are from a period of just about a week, which violates WP:LASTING. SportingFlyer  T · C  14:59, 16 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Not true. There are two reliable sources from January 2021. Please strike or amend your above comment. Benicio2020 (talk) 15:30, 16 April 2021 (UTC)
 * One of them just mentions it in a sentence and isn't SIGCOV, the other (Orlando Sentinel I presume?) I can't access. I'm not striking or amending, it's still not WP:LASTING. SportingFlyer  T · C  15:39, 16 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Yes it is. Benicio2020 (talk) 16:07, 16 April 2021 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom and previous nom that not every single thing Donald Trump does deserves an article. Yes, there was coverage at the time, but there's nothing to suggest this was a significant, notable thing; it looks like just another odd thing that Trump said, that had its 15 minutes of fame by way of comedians riffing on it, and then everyone moved on once. This is actually the first I've even heard of this phrase (or if I'd heard it before, I promptly forgot). I also disagree with the above suggestions of a merge to Donald Trump in popular culture, partly because I don't think it's notable to begin with, but also because that doesn't seem like the appropriate target; Donald Trump in popular culture is more talking about the 'big picture', of Trump's cultural image and a brief outline of his various media appearances, and I don't see where this is supposed to fit in (unless the suggestion is to make a new section for his way with words). — Kawnhr (talk) 04:31, 18 April 2021 (UTC)
 * I would agree that this is not a notable thing, but the standard for inclusion in an article is much lower than the standard for having a standalone article. I think a paragraph on the phrase and the immediate pop culture reaction to it in the proposed merge target would suffice. BD2412  T 04:37, 18 April 2021 (UTC)
 * But I don't think it's even relevant to cover on that page. Note that Covfefe, another weird saying that actually did achieve a sort of lasting notoriety, is nowhere to be found on that page. Unless this is also a proposal to make a section on Donald Trump in popular culture titled something like "Gaffes" that goes over his propensity for saying weird things and garnering reactions, I don't see where it's supposed to fit. — Kawnhr (talk) 04:43, 18 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Merge into Donald Trump in popular culture, there is no need for an article for everything Trump said in an interview.--Mvqr (talk) 10:21, 18 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete Not everything Trump says deserves an article. Meme died very soon afterwards. We would never be even considering this if the PM of Spain said something that got a bit of attention for only several days. Seriously, stop archiving every odd thing he says. Otherwise we would need 12 new articles every time he opens his mouth. Same goes with Biden by the way. -- Kndimov (talk) 15:12, 22 April 2021 (UTC)


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