Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Peru v Scotland (1978)


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The result was   delete. v/r - TP 14:46, 9 August 2011 (UTC)

Peru v Scotland (1978)

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I don't see what makes this game particularly notable as opposed to any other group stage match at the 1978 FIFA World Cup. The result was something of a "disaster" for Scotland, but so was the following match, a 1–1 draw against Iran. There weren't any records set by this match. Objectively, it is just another routine World Cup group stage match. The format established at other World Cup articles is that there are articles about the group stage as a whole, rather than an individual match in that group, to prevent the main tournament article being too long. Jmorrison230582 (talk) 05:43, 1 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Football-related deletion discussions.  —Tom Morris (talk) 05:46, 1 August 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete. Non-notable match. No records were broken, nothing extraordinary happened, WP:ROUTINE. Argyle 4 Life  talk  07:28, 1 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. GiantSnowman 12:35, 1 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete - nothing notable about this match. GiantSnowman 12:42, 1 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Move: This match is notable for both Peruvians and Scots, as demonstrated by the references. This match may not be significant in other countries, but that does not remove its overall notability for both Peru and Scotland (hence why it's "low" on the WP project football scale). Quoting the Scottish website: "We had such a good team and it was an absolute nightmare result. I’ve been to every Scotland away game since 1980 and I don’t think any compares for sheer disappointment."
 * It should also be noted that no article exists for Group D for the 1978 World Cup. Deleting this article would erase all of the information currently on it.-- MarshalN20 | T a l k 16:45, 1 August 2011 (UTC)
 * The person's quotes are referring to the tournament as a whole. Scotland could have lost to Peru but still qualified by winning the other two matches. Instead they drew against Iran (which at the time was a bigger shock than losing to Peru, eg BBC article describing it as a "humiliation") and were eliminated on goal difference despite winning against Holland. Regarding the second point, you could move the article to 1978 FIFA World Cup group D and add comments / statistics for the other five matches in the group. The point is that the match does not merit a standalone article on the grounds of notability. Jmorrison230582 (talk) 20:23, 1 August 2011 (UTC)
 * That may be so, but, unfortunately, the article still needs to satisfy WP:SPORTSEVENT. Regards, RJH (talk) 18:37, 1 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Why is the information to be deleted instead of moved? I'll move it myself, but I won't add any of the other matches (which the rest of you interested editors can add if you want).-- MarshalN20 | T a l k 23:58, 1 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete Completly unremarkable and non-notable game of football.  Lugnuts  (talk) 17:52, 1 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete This match is not notable at all. Fwiw, I do feel a little bad for Scotland fans, though. Vanadus (talk | contribs) 07:55, 5 August 2011 (UTC)
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