Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Pete Holly (4th nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. – GorillaWarfare (talk) 00:01, 2 April 2012 (UTC)

Pete Holly
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Surpassingly non-notable amateur musician, fails WP:BIO and WP:MUSIC, passed away in 2010 without so much as a peep from any music media source of any degree of obscurity. Given that the subject of the article is no longer here to defend his "fame", as he seems to have done during previous discussions for deletion, there's really no reason to keep it around. You give this guy a Wiki entry, you might as well give one to everyone who's ever picked up a guitar, played a single club gig and burned his own CD. Kojiclutch (talk) 21:46, 25 March 2012 (UTC)

STRONG DELETE AND PROTECT I Googled ""Pete Holly" dead" and found nothing. Googled ""Pete Holly" obituary" and the first hit wasn't even for this subject. Who was this guy anyway? Completely and utterly fails WP:BIO, kill it with fire. Purepanache (talk) 22:12, 25 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Speedy delete, no assertation of notability at all. The fact that it had previous AFDs does not preclude a speedy. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 00:15, 26 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions.  • Gene93k (talk) 02:01, 26 March 2012 (UTC)


 * I've added your behaviour here to Requests for comment/TenPoundHammer. Edit-warring over a speedy deletion is never acceptable (if someone in GF contests it, it's not a speedy), and you're edging even on 3RR with it. Andy Dingley (talk) 16:34, 26 March 2012 (UTC)


 * delete We need sources. Andy Dingley (talk) 16:22, 26 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete. Things have moved on here since the last AfD, and we tend to require actual evidence that a subject belongs in an encyclopedia these days. There doesn't appear to be any here. I found this, which is the briefest of mentions, but really nothing else. --Michig (talk) 17:56, 26 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep According to Allmusic, he has released two albums on The Orchard record label, thus satisfying WP:BAND #5 for multiple releases on an important indie label with a roster of notable artists. —Torchiest talkedits 19:18, 26 March 2012 (UTC)
 * I'm sceptical about The Orchard as it appears to be in many cases an intermediary that puts music on sites like iTunes for a fee. There's nothing about Pete Holly on The Orchard's website.--Michig (talk) 19:37, 26 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Interesting point. I dug back further into this, and his old band signed to Bomp! Records and released a 7" on that label.  Here there are three reviews for The Wizard of Garage, including one from The Rocket, a Seattle biweekly newspaper.  It seems like there might just barely be enough stuff out there to hang notability on, even excluding The Orchard. —Torchiest talkedits 20:50, 26 March 2012 (UTC)


 * Probably Delete. The main possible support for notability looks like The Orchard, but it doesn't look like a conventional record label to me - it's described as "an independent music and video distribution, marketing, and sales company that works with independent artists, labels, and other content providers to distribute content...", which makes it sound like it will distribute anything for anyone. Can't actually find any mention of him on The Orchard site. Another possibility might be that his albums can be bought on Amazon (CD and MP3), so there might be some avenues to explore there - not really sure. -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 20:05, 26 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete - I dont find the person important. There are no notable works done by the artist so delete.  Yash t  101  :)  00:27, 27 March 2012 (UTC)


 * Delete - No significant coverage in independent reliable sources and the Orchard is not a major independent label; in fact, it doesn't really appear to be a music label at all. I did find this mention, but that only verifies he was a musician and falls well short of what is needed to establish notability. -- Whpq (talk) 17:49, 27 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Comment. How do we know the subject is deceased? The only reason to think Pete Holly died is that an anonymous editor changed this article to say that he died. Maybe the reason we can't find any obituaries for Holly is that he is still alive. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 01:55, 29 March 2012 (UTC)
 * This is only circumstantial, but it looks like he was running two blogs, both of which have no entries past June 2010. —Torchiest talkedits 02:31, 29 March 2012 (UTC)
 * This is very likely his obituary; the info all adds up. Purepanache (talk) 14:43, 29 March 2012 (UTC)


 * Delete—Non-notable, as evidenced by lack of RS.  Liv it ⇑ Eh?/What? 02:10, 30 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete as failing WP:GNG unless substantial reliable sources can be found that cover the subject in depth. If new sources are added to the article, ping my talk page and I'll take another look. Stuartyeates (talk) 04:53, 1 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete not notable. Jarvis Sherbourne (talk) 17:11, 1 April 2012 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.