Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Peter Belohlavek (2nd nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. The "delete" !votes have the stronger arguments. As an aside I'd like to note that posting huge walls of text (especially when not in English) is not a very effective way of presenting an argument. Randykitty (talk) 17:02, 6 December 2018 (UTC)

Peter Belohlavek
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Non-notable pseudoscience peddler, has a h-index of 4 despite having founded a "research institute", does not meet WP:GNG, WP:NACADEMIC, WP:NBIO. Nominating alongside The Unicist Research Institute. More in-depth explanation of notability problems at Articles for deletion/The Unicist Research Institute signed,Rosguill talk 20:36, 14 November 2018 (UTC)
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 * Keep: Arguments: Notability - This 2012 article has received significant coverage in independent reliable sources. Additional references have also been added. It follows the general notability guidelines that apply, including multiple published secondary sources that are reliable, intellectually independent of each other, and independent of the subject. Bridge2007 (talk) 23:51, 18 November 2018 (UTC) — Bridge2007 (talk&#32;• contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
 * Delete. Most of the sourcing I could find like this aren't independent, and others are more passing mention. Even from a WP:FRINGEBLP standpoint, I'm not seeing anything to really write up an article with in terms of WP:PARITY-based notability. Kingofaces43 (talk) 03:09, 19 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Just a secondary note that after the relisting and wading through through Bridge2007's text below, but the substance of my previous !vote doesn't really change. There hasn't really been a case made for GNG yet. Kingofaces43 (talk) 00:18, 28 November 2018 (UTC)


 * Delete, basically per nom. For academic WP:FRINGE cases, WP:BIO/WP:GNG are the main operative guidelines. There is too little coverage in independent mainstream reliable sources in this case to pass WP:BIO/WP:GNG. Nsk92 (talk) 22:26, 19 November 2018 (UTC)


 * Verifiability – Independent and reliable sources available offline: This article has offline sources that are available for consultation and can be shared. From what I understand from the guidelines: “There is no distinction between using online versus offline sources. Offline sources are just as legitimate as those that are accessible to everyone online.”


 * These are independent reliable sources of very well-known newspapers and magazines of national reach that are available for this subject. This article meets the primary criteria, with the required components of: significant coverage, multiple, independent, reliable, secondary sources.


 * They are independent and reliable secondary sources from Argentina, Brazil and Uruguay. From the research on the subject and the global discussion, I understand that the language of these sources is not an issue to consider the article for deletion, so I am sharing these sources, so they can be verified. If required, I can offer a translation.


 * Required Sources: Available
 * In response to the request, I am sharing the mentioned offline references, transcribing some of the excerpts from the news found in Folha de Sao Paulo (Brasil), Buenos Aires Herald, El Cronista Comercial, Segundo Congreso Nacional Argentina necesita emprendedores and El Dia Journal from Uruguay (others are also available), that I trust can be useful to verify the sources.


 * I am sharing some of them in their original language. If necessary, I can also offer to share a translation of the available sources:


 * • Johnson, Peter (2004-12-16). "Argentina faces 20-year transition period". Buenos Aires Herald.


 * • Mañana Professional. “Peter Belohlavek & The Unicist Research Institute”, Segundo Congreso Nacional: Argentina necesita emprendedores (August–September 2005) p.9.


 * • Folha de São Paulo. “Brasil tem tudo para ser uma potência”. March 12, 1990, p. 2 Negócios.


 * • Brasil: Sanear para así crecer. El Cronista Comercial. p.9. 1990-03-18.


 * • “Los pueblos cambian gobiernos, y no gobiernos a los pueblos”. Section: Información Nacional, Diario El Día, Montevideo, Uruguay, p.14, 1989-08-18


 * • Landeyro, Norberto. Brasil buscó un planteo nuevo: la seguridad. El Cronista p.15. 1989-11-26


 * Johnson, Peter (2004-12-16). "Argentina faces 20-year transition period". Buenos Aires Herald.


 * Argentina faces 20-year transition period (By Peter Johnson, Herald Staff)


 * Future Research and scenario building is a little known area of research in Argentina, yet it has produced a breakthrough that makes other systems obsolete.


 * An event held in Buenos Aires recently mapped out the forecast for the next 20 years based on this new approach, showing that there will be a period where diplomacy prevails over wars and those countries that have managed to organize the State independently from government will have natural advantages due to the consistency of their diplomatic efforts.


 * The methodology on which this approach to the construction of future scenarios is based is the Unicist Theory of Evolution developed by Peter Belohlavek, that enables one to build the drivers that determine the evolution of individuals, institutions and cultures.


 * The World in the Next 20 Years


 * During the event the outstanding issue was the strength that the national interest has as a driver of this period that is dominated by globalization and diplomacy. The power of the national interest determines the capacity of cultures to be mutually influential. Heavy emphasis was places on the fact that the USA and Europe aim to be the prime influential forces in the world.


 * Globalization becomes sustainable where it is upheld by the national interest. Where this support is lacking globalization is not sustainable.


 * Diplomacy implies an integration of cooperation and competition. Where there is a past that has included cooperation then it becomes a natural process. Cooperating in diversity is the European Approach. Where a historical concept that draws these together is lacking integration tends to function as an alliance and not as institutionalization.


 * The power of dissuasion becomes an important driver in this period that can be called post-perestroika. Dissuasion takes on all possible forms: military, cultural, religious, economic and ideological.


 * The power of dissuasion enables competition. Competition in the world during this period becomes almost cut throat due to the need of developed countries to maintain their levels of employment in the face of the encroaching globalization and the new technologies.


 * The fight for the vital space becomes global as the developed countries need wider spaces to be implanted that will sustain their levels of employment. Diplomacy will therefore become the main driver in this period that will be marked by an infinite number of negotiations and renegotiations.


 * Terrorism therefore, whether military, economic or drug related is forbidden in this period. Counties breaking the rules will be severely sanctioned but always within the framework of each participant’s national interest.


 * Argentina in the Next 20 Years


 * The next 20 years for Argentina as seen as a transition period. At which point Belohlavek recalled a famous Chinese curse: “May you live through a transition period”.


 * The foreign debt, the tenuous separation between government and State, and the loss of its natural role of State administration has generated a dysfunctionality in its social and economic behavior with the consequent difficulties in the political arena.


 * The transition will begin with the modification of a vertically-aligned education model focused on teaching, to one more focused on learning. As happened in Spain which needed 40 years to develop its current model from changes to its educational model, Argentina will need more than a generation to build a base that will enable sustained and sustainable growth. Growth based on consumption and investment incentives will be all the rage in this period, as they are the natural defences to stimulate employment.


 * Argentina has opted for a State model that corresponds to shrinking cultures or a country with shrinking sectors, which begins to give it consistency beyond the difficulties generated by actions by individual government officials rather than actions by the State as an institution.


 * People will keep on believing, as a result of a culture of plenty, that wealth is what one has and not what one produces, which will lead to an attitude where wealth is viewed as illegitimate as it is considered appropriation and not production.


 * Technologies adopted in this period will be those producing immediate results, those producing profits in the short term. Work, giving the structural lack of proactive international production and expansion, will be linked to employment rather than added value. This can only lead to high levels of employment protection.


 * This period should also see the emergence of new leaders that will generate policies to increase productivity after having overcome the transition period of beginning to pay off the foreign debt.


 * Economic culture will be based on cost advantages rather than added value and the culture will tend to operate as a free trade zone open to the influential cultures of the world.


 * The installation of equality of rights, which precedes that of equality of opportunities, will begin to take place slowly and heavily influenced by developed countries and the leading countries in the region (Chile and Brazil).


 * Corruption will continue to drop as the system becomes more efficient and the separation of individuals from institutions increases.


 * The transition of the next 20 years is a massive adaptation process and implies that people will have to pay a price and that governments in the period will have to compensate for this.


 * Until now the construction of future scenarios had been based on consensus. The Unicist methodology makes them obsolete as it is structured on the drivers that are the result of the concepts that underlie every process of evolution. It is a qualitative jump. Starting with the drivers it is possible to build multiple operational alternative and agreed on courses of action that can influence the future.


 * Mañana Professional. “Peter Belohlavek & The Unicist Research Institute”, Segundo Congreso Nacional: Argentina necesita emprendedores (August–September 2005) p.23.


 * “Peter Belohlavek nació en Zilina, Eslovaquia en 1944. Es el autor de la teoría unicista de evolución y los modelos unicistas aplicados a la prospectiva y la estrategia en los campos social, institucional e individual. Fundador de The Unicist Research Insitute viene construyendo, desde hace más de 30 años, los escenarios nacionales e internacionales con notable acierto.”


 * (…)“Belohlavek es autor de la Teoría de Evolución Unicista que se basa en el descubrimiento de la estructura de conceptos. (…) Para el autor de la Teoría Unicista de Evolución, el vuelo de un negocio depende de la ética que tiene ese negocio. Compuesta por aspectos funcionales, ideológicos y morales, la ética y la moral apuntan a la convivencia.” p. 9.


 * Folha de S.Paulo. “Brasil tem tudo para ser uma potência”. March 12, 1990, p. 2 Negócios.


 * Brasil já lidera a América Latina e dentro de dez anos será uma das grandes potências mundiais. Essa é a opinião do consultor Pedro Belohlavek depois de dois anos de contatos e trabalho no país.


 * Numa entrevista à Folha por telefone de Buenos Aires, o consultor disse que para consolidar seu crescimento são necessárias duas ações principais – a abertura para mercados competitivos e mais interessantes para a exportação e um programa educacional que resolva de uma vez por todas as carências dessa área.


 * Belohlavek mostra um gosto por opiniões polémicas. Para ele, Sarney foi “talvez o melhor governo de transição que o Brasil poderia ter”. No seu entender foi a primeira vez que o país separou de uma forma mais clara “a economia da política”. A iniciativa privada atuando sem o apoio do governo era algo pouco experimentado na história brasileira”, disse o autor de “Estratégia – A arte do êxito”.


 * Belohlavek afirma que a sociedade brasileira favorece o crescimento econômico. Segundo ele, uma base estrutural forte permite a mudança nas ações com uma velocidade de adaptação social bastante rápida. “No Brasil se desenvolveu uma mentalidade industrial”, garante o consultor. Segundo ele, isso coloca o país numa situação de vantagem em relação à maioria dos seus vizinhos na América do Sul.


 * O sistema financeiro, o setor de exportação e a informática são três áreas que segundo Belohlavek sofrerão grandes transformações nos próximos anos no Brasil. Análises que fazem parte de um estudo sobre os próximos dez anos do país enviado durante a campanha eleitoral para cinco candidatos à Presidência – Fernando Collor, Lula, Leonel Brizola, Mario Covas e Paulo Maluí.


 * Depois de percorrer muitos países, o consultor discorda enfaticamente do mito do brasileiro preguiçoso e mais interessado na fruição do lazer. Segundo ele, na América Latina, apenas os executivos do Chile trabalham mais horas que seus colegas brasileiros, conclusão a que chegou depois de um estudo particular.


 * Outra característica que afirma ter encontrado no Brasil é a vocação para o trabalho em equipe. Essa última conclusão se apóia também na observação do futebol “Presto muita atenção aos esportes nacionais dos países que estudo. Geralmente é uma amostra muito relevadora do comportamento”, afirmou Belohlavek.


 * Ele disse ter encontrado a vocação expansiva da economia brasileira também ali. “O futebol” brasileiro se apoia muito num jogo de equipe e de ataque enquanto o argentino tem uma retranca muito forte e precisa de estreias como Maradona para dar certo”.


 * Brasil: Sanear para así crecer, El Cronista Comercial, p.9., 1990-03-18.
 * Opina un especialista
 * Brasil: “Sanear para así crecer”


 * (…) Recién llegado de Brasil, fue consultado por El Cronista, Pedro Belohlavek, especialista en América Latina y titular de M&T, con filiales en ambos países.


 * “Luego de una transición liberal en la cual se dejó que la economía se independizara de la política, Brasil acaba de entrar en una etapa dirigista que conducirá hacia una profundización de esa independencia. Lo importante es que, si bien todas las medidas son dirigistas, la meta es una economía libre”, sostiene.


 * “Hay que tener en claro que es un plan que juega a más, es un plan de crecimiento, no de achique de la economía del país. La idea central es hacer un saneamiento de la economía para crecer en forma inmediata”, dice. “La prueba de ello es que el plan de privatizaciones, que es virtualmente total -sólo permanecerán en manos del Estado Petrobras y Banco de Brasil – se basa en la venta de las empresas al capital mayoritariamente nacional.


 * Eso, a juicio de Belohlavek, es una de las características que lo diferencian del plan argentino, que privatiza en base a capitalización de deuda. “Otra diferencia es que el de Brasil es un plan dirigista, no realizó moratoria de la deuda interna y abarcó de golpe lo económico, lo social y lo político. El plan argentino se hace a pedacitos, por lo cual nunca se termina de establecer la seguridad jurídica”, sostiene.


 * Pero agrega que “la Argentina no podía haber hecho un plan así, porque el estado de ambos países es sustancialmente diferente. Un dato interesante es que 84 por ciento del PBI de la Argentina se destina al mercado interno, mientras que en Brasil es menos del 60 por ciento.


 * En cuanto a su opinión acerca de que el plan brasileño conduce al crecimiento, Belohlavek lo corrobora cuando afirma que “continúa la orientación exportadora”, se privatiza para el capital local, no se achica el sistema financiero, y al indexarse mutuamente precios y salarios, las pérdidas son pequeñas, con excepción de las grandes disponibilidades.


 * Señala que la Argentina va a tener una excelente oportunidad exportadora, en el marco de la integración, si el plan y su criterio aperturista funcionan. Otras consecuencias podrían ser una reestructuración del sistema financiero, una baja en la Bolsa, al nominativizarse el capital, y el riesgo de que la economía se dolarice. La clave del éxito o el fracaso de este plan es el grado de confianza que el gobierno logre por parte de los empresarios y en general de todos los brasileños”.


 * “La credibilidad del modelo va a hacer que Brasil dispare hacia adelante”, agrega Belohlavek. “Este es un plan que está en el límite de la audacia por atacar a todas las variables simultáneamente. Hoy Brasil es la octava economía del mundo. Puedo asegurar que dentro de 10 años va a haber adelantado posiciones”, sostiene.


 * Belohlavek considera que los medios argentinos se equivocaron en considerar que la alta inflación brasileña era hiperinflación, “porque la híper se da cuando a un país se le escapa la inflación, pierde el control de la economía. Los brasileños tuvieron una economía indexada, que es algo diferente. Pero la consecuencia de este plan, por supuesto, va a ser una disminución de la inflación. Otro aspecto remarcable es que, de aquí en más, la palabra “productividad” va a escribirse con mayúscula y letras doradas”.


 * Landeyro, Norberto. Brasil buscó un planteo nuevo: la seguridad. El Cronista p.15. 1989-11-26


 * (This source is proposed to be added to the article in the application of the models. One excerpt from the first lines of a full one-page offline newspaper article of national coverage in Argentina, El Cronista, is provided below. A transcription of the full article can be provided if necessary.)


 * “Brasil buscó un planteo nuevo: la seguridad. La definición corresponde a Belohlavek, modelador de escenarios y estrategias, que en larga charla con El Cronista analizó la realidad y el futuro del mayor país de América del Sur, a la luz de los resultados de la primera vuelta electoral. Quiénes son y que representan los dos candidatos que definirán el pleito en diciembre próximo. Reflexiones sobre Uruguay – celebra hoy sus comicios – y Chile que lo hará en diciembre.”


 * “Los pueblos cambian gobiernos, y no gobiernos a los pueblos”. Section: Información Nacional, Diario El Día, Montevideo, p.14, 1989-08-18


 * (This source is proposed to be added to the article. One excerpt from this offline newspaper article of national coverage in Uruguay is shared below.)


 * Insertado el estudio de nuestro país dentro del análisis mundial, señaló que todas las sociedades evolucionan tratando de satisfacer sus necesidades, de tal modo que cuando ellas están satisfechas, se ha llegado al techo, del cual se va a bajar, porque en ese momento comienza la corrupción.


 * De ese modo fue como en Uruguay se pasó, en determinado momento, luego de un auge económico, a un gran distribucionismo, al que siguió la corrupción del mismo, el deterioro del sistema, a un planteo de izquierda, a un planteo de derecha, hasta que se llegó al piso. Y eso es absolutamente lógico y no podía haber sucedido de otra manera, añadió.


 * En cuanto al escenario futuro de Uruguay se refirió a él comparándolo con la situación de un americano y un japonés que van a la selva y aparece un león. Entonces explica, el japonés se saca las botas y se pone unas zapatillas. A lo que el americano le pregunta, piensa que así va a correr más que el león. “No más que el león- es la respuesta- pero sí más que tú.” De ese modo tiene que correr Uruguay más que los que están a su lado, explicó Belohlavek.


 * Analizó durante su charla una serie de conceptos tales como ideología, tipos de sociedades, familia, pobreza, mercado, proyectos nacionales y comparó especialmente a la sociedad uruguaya con la argentina y la brasileña.


 * Y dedujo de ello que Uruguay tiene que aceptar sus propios valores y sus propias limitaciones.


 * Conectando esta afirmación a lo que para él significa subdesarrollo, explicó que éste no es más que querer ser lo que no se es. Definió así a nuestro país como el más coherente de América Latina y explicó que hasta ahora no había tenido marketing porque no había necesitado del mismo.


 * Pero ahora, añadió, sólo se desarrollan las sociedades que se expanden, no las que se contraen.


 * Refiriéndose a la teoría de su método de análisis tridimensional, explicó que es una síntesis del pensamiento oriental y el occidental, ya que el primero tiene una concepción del Universo como una unidad y el otro, dual. “El oriental integra, el occidental divide”, dijo. Las cosas son, y después se analizan, continuó explicando. Y ejemplificó diciendo que: “el árbol es anterior a la Botánica”.


 * Luego de un profundo análisis de otros factores de la evolución de las sociedades, el Dr. Belohlavek finalizó exponiendo la idea de que en todos los órdenes de la vida, lo que uno gana lo pierde el otro. Por lo que Uruguay está frente a la disyuntiva de jugar el papel de Latinoamérica – “donde es ganador frente a la inestabilidad de los demás” – o sigue tratando de mantenerse en el primer mundo, al que perteneció y ya no pertenece.


 * “Hay, por lo tanto, que salir a vender, no a Argentina o Brasil, sino afuera y averiguar cómo es el comprador extranjero y qué necesita, porque es el que va a comprar las artesanías uruguayas.” Bridge2007 (talk) 18:09, 20 November 2018 (UTC) — Bridge2007 (talk&#32;• contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.


 * Would it be possible for you to provide scans of these written sources to establish that they are legitimate, especially the coverage in the Buenos Aires Herald and El Cronista as these articles appear to provide the most significant coverage? signed,Rosguill talk 19:28, 20 November 2018 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: Relisting per sources provided later in the discussion.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 01:01, 21 November 2018 (UTC)


 * Yes, of course. I have scanned the required sources for your verification. Notice that you will also find the name translated into Spanish in the region, even though he has a Slovak name. I hope the format of the files is fine to read, if not, please specify so I share them again. I trust this will be helpful.


 * Please find the links below:


 * https://drive.google.com/file/d/1hdgdj86SphTUTbGHrOcx8zk7x60J1Iva/view?usp=sharing


 * https://drive.google.com/file/d/1UNZIfCLdeOaQtxi2vfda3_JmNzEcQ7on/view?usp=sharing


 * https://drive.google.com/file/d/1aIGjKhEhkn5kmEsGH6qIvILwu23gAU9t/view?usp=sharing


 * Bridge2007 (talk) 01:00, 22 November 2018 (UTC) — Bridge2007 (talk&#32;• contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
 * Thanks for providing these sources, they establish that the reported quotes are indeed real. Unfortunately, it doesn't appear that they provide the in-depth coverage of Belohlavek necessary to demonstrate notability. While the interviews approach Belohlavek as an expert on the subject, there is no actual coverage of Belohlavek himself beyond very brief introductions, which is ultimately what is needed to demonstrate notability–the content of the interviews is focused on current events in Brazil. The Herald article may be a bit more useful toward establishing notability, as it discusses to some extent the research that Belohlavek is associated with at the Unicist Institute, but even that seems a bit borderline. At this time, I'd like to hear from other editors (but could also be swayed by additional in-depth coverage of Belohlavek). signed,Rosguill talk 19:25, 22 November 2018 (UTC)


 * Thank you for your feedback. Following your request, I am providing additional in-depth coverage. I hope these additional sources fulfill your request. Please let me know.
 * https://drive.google.com/file/d/1tN5NPBFdVYVc2lWXJepKq7Cox8yT5eo7/view?usp=sharing
 * https://drive.google.com/file/d/1zsrnXyIXBSSQWvVemjPLWUk4uKS17CsW/view?usp=sharing
 * https://drive.google.com/file/d/16miW9d5_-31NKG2U61aVymPO7HeYuiCl/view?usp=sharing
 * https://drive.google.com/file/d/1yCmCizcQrdgsshKhxGJamRIJlsgJiWFu/view?usp=sharing
 * https://drive.google.com/file/d/1PxsMSe5gne6S3f4TaFyPgAqKhfJ7JNsz/view?usp=sharing
 * https://drive.google.com/file/d/1SwIDd6pT8cVH6XDsgm7gKhs6x9hHI8Cc/view?usp=sharing
 * https://drive.google.com/file/d/10QxBLcEFN2StqtI6AZMUWb3UT16U4E3E/view?usp=sharing
 * https://drive.google.com/file/d/1I0SObczvIuT_3OBUUBOyn9118oxkFfrF/view?usp=sharing
 * Thank you. Bridge2007 (talk) 03:42, 23 November 2018 (UTC) — Bridge2007 (talk&#32;• contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
 * Could you please list the sources next to the files? Not all of them have it marked in the image. signed,Rosguill talk 08:16, 23 November 2018 (UTC)


 * Yes, of course. I am including the additional sources (full articles) that have been added with an access to their scanned copies below:
 * 3-page article Revista Nueva:
 * https://drive.google.com/file/d/1tN5NPBFdVYVc2lWXJepKq7Cox8yT5eo7/view?usp=sharing
 * https://drive.google.com/file/d/1zsrnXyIXBSSQWvVemjPLWUk4uKS17CsW/view?usp=sharing
 * https://drive.google.com/file/d/16miW9d5_-31NKG2U61aVymPO7HeYuiCl/view?usp=sharing


 * 2 page-article Revista Mañana University:
 * https://drive.google.com/file/d/1yCmCizcQrdgsshKhxGJamRIJlsgJiWFu/view?usp=sharing
 * https://drive.google.com/file/d/1PxsMSe5gne6S3f4TaFyPgAqKhfJ7JNsz/view?usp=sharing


 * Folha de Sao Paulo, Brazil:
 * https://drive.google.com/file/d/1SwIDd6pT8cVH6XDsgm7gKhs6x9hHI8Cc/view?usp=sharing


 * El Día, Uruguay:
 * https://drive.google.com/file/d/10QxBLcEFN2StqtI6AZMUWb3UT16U4E3E/view?usp=sharing


 * O Estado de São Paulo, Brazil:
 * https://drive.google.com/file/d/1I0SObczvIuT_3OBUUBOyn9118oxkFfrF/view?usp=sharing


 * Thank you. Bridge2007 (talk) 17:14, 23 November 2018 (UTC) — Bridge2007 (talk&#32;• contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.


 * Unfortunately, I'm having a hard time reading the El Día and Folha de São Paulo sources due to the poor image quality–would it be possible to provide higher resolution images? As for the other sources, is there any authorship information for the article in O Estado de São Paulo? The piece appears to exclusively discuss Belohlavek's book (which based on citation searches does not appear to have made a significant impact in its field), and I'm concerned that it could actually be an advertisement. Additionally, I'm concerned about the reliability of Mañana University and Revista Nueva as I can't seem to find any information about the former and searching for the latter led me to this site, which provides no editorial information and may not even be the same publication. If the coverage in El Día and Folha is solid it may not end up mattering, as those sources are definitely reliable, but as I stated previously the image quality is very poor and makes it difficult to read and evaluate the depth of coverage. signed,Rosguill talk 20:32, 23 November 2018 (UTC)


 * Yes, fortunately, I can resend you now the information with a better image in the case of El Dia and a closer one in the case of Folha de Sao Paulo, as well as the full texts I typed for you to follow just in case. As you mention to focus on the main newspapers, besides all the other media that cover this, I count that Buenos Aires Herald, Cronista, El Día (Uruguay), Folha de Sao Paulo (Brasil), are very well known and reliable secondary sources.
 * ( As a side note the Nueva Review is an Argentine magazine that is distributed with the Sunday Newspaper in some of the main cities in Argentina. http://nueva.com.ar/portal/sobre )
 * For your convenience, I could find specifically what you requested, a new high definition copy of the El Dia article that I had already sent you (see link for image 1). I am also sending you 2 other images for 2 articles published in the prestigious newspaper Folha de Sao Paulo (the first, a better quality image and the second, an additional one). In this case, I found out that the library in Brazil has a better copy, of course, but I believe we can manage with the one we have. Of course if you need the one from the library, I am not in Brazil, but I will be able to get it as well. I believe since all the information is provided, you will be able to verify the sources perfectly.


 * 1) “Los pueblos cambian gobiernos, y no gobiernos a los pueblos”. Section: Información Nacional, Diario El Día, Montevideo, p.14, 1989-08-18
 * https://drive.google.com/file/d/1JDCb5MsRpc1CyLbg86TLoaryaHrraCJX/view?usp=sharing


 * 2) Folha de S.Paulo. “Brasil tem tudo para ser uma potência”. March 12, 1990, p. 2 Negócios.
 * https://drive.google.com/file/d/16eZA__b-xlusMP3GY4zc-bRWeBT7Spn0/view?usp=sharing


 * 3) Rangel, Teresa. “Processo levará dez anos, diz o consultor”. Folha de S.Paulo. August 31, 1990, p. 2. Economia.
 * https://drive.google.com/file/d/1rORa1Z7nkRhQxiXf50HTk3kW8cwTj-NC/view?usp=sharing


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 * 1) “Los pueblos cambian gobiernos, y no gobiernos a los pueblos”. Section: Información Nacional, Diario El Día, Montevideo, p.14, 1989-08-18


 * Los pueblos cambian gobiernos, y no gobiernos a los pueblos
 * “Galileo murió por haberle dicho a la gente que el Universo era distinto a lo que la gente creía.”
 * “Eso mismo es lo que pasa con los pueblos. Si todos creemos que el gobierno va a cumplir, vamos a trabajar y hacer algo. Pero lo vamos a hacer nosotros, no el gobierno. En cambio si pasa lo contrario, no vamos a hacer nada. Y los que no vamos a hacer nada vamos a ser nosotros y no el gobierno”. Con estos conceptos revolucionarios e introductores comenzó la conferencia el Dr. Pedro Belohlavek al cierre del fórum: “El marketing y el Uruguay”.
 * Autor del método “Teoría del análisis tridimensional”, al que él califica de casi “una mala palabra”, por su extensión, se refirió al mismo explicando que se trata del estudio de las sociedades a través de sus componentes fundamentales y de la evolución de los mismos.
 * Insertado el estudio de nuestro país dentro del análisis mundial, señaló que todas las sociedades evolucionan tratando de satisfacer sus necesidades, de tal modo que cuando ellas están satisfechas, se ha llegado al techo, del cual se va a bajar, porque en ese momento comienza la corrupción.
 * De ese modo fue como en Uruguay se pasó, en determinado momento, luego de un auge económico, a un gran distribucionismo, al que siguió la corrupción del mismo, el deterioro del sistema, a un planteo de izquierda, a un planteo de derecha, hasta que se llegó al piso. Y eso es absolutamente lógico y no podía haber sucedido de otra manera, añadió.
 * En cuanto al escenario futuro de Uruguay se refirió a él comparándolo con la situación de un americano y un japonés que van a la selva y aparece un león. Entonces explica, el japonés se saca las botas y se pone unas zapatillas. A lo que el americano le pregunta, piensa que así va a correr más que el león. “No más que el león- es la respuesta- pero sí más que tú.” De ese modo tiene que correr Uruguay más que los que están a su lado, explicó Belohlavek.
 * Analizó durante su charla una serie de conceptos tales como ideología, tipos de sociedades, familia, pobreza, mercado, proyectos nacionales y comparó especialmente a la sociedad uruguaya con la argentina y la brasileña.
 * Y dedujo de ello que Uruguay tiene que aceptar sus propios valores y sus propias limitaciones.
 * Conectando esta afirmación a lo que para él significa subdesarrollo, explicó que éste no es más que querer ser lo que no se es. Definió así a nuestro país como el más coherente de América Latina y explicó que hasta ahora no había tenido marketing porque no había necesitado del mismo.
 * Pero ahora, añadió, sólo se desarrollan las sociedades que se expanden, no las que se contraen.
 * Refiriéndose a la teoría de su método de análisis tridimensional, explicó que es una síntesis del pensamiento oriental y el occidental, ya que el primero tiene una concepción del Universo como una unidad y el otro, dual. “El oriental integra, el occidental divide”, dijo. Las cosas son, y después se analizan, continuó explicando. Y ejemplificó diciendo que: “el árbol es anterior a la Botánica”.
 * Luego de un profundo análisis de otros factores de la evolución de las sociedades, el Dr. Belohlavek finalizó exponiendo la idea de que en todos los órdenes de la vida, lo que uno gana lo pierde el otro. Por lo que Uruguay está frente a la disyuntiva de jugar el papel de Latinoamérica – “donde es ganador frente a la inestabilidad de los demás” – o sigue tratando de mantenerse en el primer mundo, al que perteneció y ya no pertenece.
 * “Hay, por lo tanto, que salir a vender, no a Argentina o Brasil, sino afuera y averiguar cómo es el comprador extranjero y qué necesita, porque es el que va a comprar las artesanías uruguayas.”


 * 2) Folha de S.Paulo. “Brasil tem tudo para ser uma potência”. March 12, 1990, p. 2 Negócios.


 * “Brasil tem tudo para ser uma potência”
 * Brasil já lidera a América Latina e dentro de dez anos será uma das grandes potências mundiais. Essa é a opinião do consultor Pedro Belohlavek depois de dois anos de contatos e trabalho no país.
 * Numa entrevista à Folha por telefone de Buenos Aires, o consultor disse que para consolidar seu crescimento são necessárias duas ações principais – a abertura para mercados competitivos e mais interessantes para a exportação e um programa educacional que resolva de uma vez por todas as carências dessa área.
 * Belohlavek mostra um gosto por opiniões polémicas. Para ele, Sarney foi “talvez o melhor governo de transição que o Brasil poderia ter”. No seu entender foi a primeira vez que o país separou de uma forma mais clara “a economia da política”. A iniciativa privada atuando sem o apoio do governo era algo pouco experimentado na história brasileira”, disse o autor de “Estratégia – A arte do êxito”.
 * Belohlavek afirma que a sociedade brasileira favorece o crescimento econômico. Segundo ele, uma base estrutural forte permite a mudança nas ações com uma velocidade de adaptação social bastante rápida. “No Brasil se desenvolveu uma mentalidade industrial”, garante o consultor. Segundo ele, isso coloca o país numa situação de vantagem em relação à maioria dos seus vizinhos na América do Sul.
 * O sistema financeiro, o setor de exportação e a informática são três áreas que segundo Belohlavek sofrerão grandes transformações nos próximos anos no Brasil. Análises que fazem parte de um estudo sobre os próximos dez anos do país enviado durante a campanha eleitoral para cinco candidatos à Presidência – Fernando Collor, Lula, Leonel Brizola, Mario Covas e Paulo Maluí.
 * Depois de percorrer muitos países, o consultor discorda enfaticamente do mito do brasileiro preguiçoso e mais interessado na fruição do lazer. Segundo ele, na América Latina, apenas os executivos do Chile trabalham mais horas que seus colegas brasileiros, conclusão a que chegou depois de um estudo particular.
 * Outra característica que afirma ter encontrado no Brasil é a vocação para o trabalho em equipe. Essa última conclusão se apóia também na observação do futebol “Presto muita atenção aos esportes nacionais dos países que estudo. Geralmente é uma amostra muito relevadora do comportamento”, afirmou Belohlavek.
 * Ele disse ter encontrado a vocação expansiva da economia brasileira também ali. “O futebol” brasileiro se apoia muito num jogo de equipe e de ataque enquanto o argentino tem uma retranca muito forte e precisa de estreias como Maradona para dar certo”.


 * 3) Rangel, Teresa. “Processo levará dez anos, diz o consultor”. Folha de S.Paulo. August 31, 1990, p. 2. Economia.


 * Processo levará dez anos, diz consultor
 * A integração entre Brasil e Argentina se dará de fato marcada pelos governos dos dois países. 1 de janeiro de 1995, não será cumprida. A opinião é do consultor de estratégias empresariais Pedro Belohlavek. Ele apresenta há mais de dez anos projeções sobre o desenvolvimento econômico de países de América Latina. Cinco anos é tempo para a integração começar, diz.
 * Apesar de vaticinar o não cumprimento da data firmada pelos presidentes Fernando Collor e Carlos Menem, Belohlavek defende a integração como a saída mais vantajosa para as duas sociedades. Será quase uma questão de sobrevivência dentro do quadro de mercados unificados que surgem, afirma.
 * “Os mercados estão aumentando. Por isso, para participar da economia mundial é preciso um tamanho mínimo”, diz Belohlavek. Para ele quanto mais forte ficar o mercado europeu unido, mais rápida se dará a integração latino-americana.
 * O consultor considera legítima a integração começar por Brasil e Argentina, uma vez que há um contato já estabelecido e firme entre os dois países. Belohlavek diz que de nada adianta governos assinarem protocolos para melhor relacionamento comercial e econômico, se não há fatos isolados, pontuais, de integração. Ele diz que esses fatos podem se notar em relação a Brasil e Argentina. A Scania, por exemplo, produz motores para exportar ao Brasil.
 * Diz que a integração se dará em duas fases. Na primeira, haverá cruzamento de interesses reais, troca de tecnologia e mercadorias para atender a uma necessidade de consumo. Na segunda fase, os países vão se associar para conseguir competitividade no mercado externo.
 * Os dois principais empecilhos para a integração, na opinião de Belohlavek, são a desconfiança que os países têm entre si e a instabilidade econômica.
 * Brasil e Argentina sempre se viram como inimigos potenciais. “Enquanto os dois países trabalham com hipótese de conflito armado com seus vizinhos não é possível pensar em uma integração completa”.
 * Quanto a crise econômica dos dois países, Belohlavek diz que a inflação pode ser um “inimigo mortal” para a integração. Para ele, os governos têm de tomar medidas para tornar a economia mais estável.
 * Além do enfoque monetário, Belohlavek diz que o setor estatal deve passar a ser eficiente e os monopólios têm de acabar.
 * Aponta, também, particularidades de cada um dos dois países que podem atravancar o processo de integração. A Argentina, em sua opinião, apresenta uma “identidade nacional débil” e pode resistir à presença da cultura brasileira.
 * O desafio brasileiro, afirma, é resolver a questão de coabitação no mesmo espaço geográfico de dois países, um desenvolvido e outro pobre. “O Brasil tem de criar condições para integrar os milhões de habitantes que hoje estão à margem da economia”, conclui.
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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Sandstein   18:59, 28 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete. Low citation counts on Google Scholar show a clear failure to meet WP:PROF, no other criterion of WP:PROF seems to be met, and the article doesn't appear to even be attempting to claim any form of non-academic notability. —David Eppstein (talk) 22:26, 28 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Responding to your affirmation on the criteria, I would like to clarify that the categorization is based on Notability (People) WP:BASIC. I trust this information is useful to share for categorization purposes to assess and improve the article. This article meets the Wikipedia guidelines for notability (people). Please consider that the subject is the founder and researcher of a private research organization in the field of applied complexity sciences and not an academic researcher (see sources). Since the subject is not an academic, the academic notability guidelines do not apply for this article. This article is based on reliable, secondary sources from very well-known and respected media in Brazil, Argentina and Uruguay, which have been verified during the last fourteen days with the texts and scans provided for verification. Thank you. Bridge2007 (talk) 00:58, 30 November 2018 (UTC) — Bridge2007 (talk&#32;• contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
 * This seems like special pleading. If a leader of a research institute is going to be notable for that, then the research itself would have to have significant coverage to even begin claiming that while also avoiding WP:INHERIT arguments. Kingofaces43 (talk) 18:39, 1 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your clarification. The notability has to do with the subject, not with the research institute, it is independent. This subject is independently notable. The subject is an expert in the study of adaptive systems’ evolution, such as social and economic systems, which can be found in the news on social, economic and business scenarios, among other applications. I would be adding this information to the article: “…is a Slovak complexity science researcher, dedicated to the study of the evolution of adaptive systems, and known for his work in the building of social and economic scenarios and its applications.” You can verify this information with the provided sources: Buenos Aires Herald, El Cronista, El Dia, Folha de S. Paulo, Revista Nueva, O Estado de Sao Paulo, etc. I hope this is of help. Bridge2007 (talk) 19:41, 2 December 2018 (UTC)
 * And now this is going circular when you just just said academic research background metrics didn't apply to this BLP. Kingofaces43 (talk) 04:52, 3 December 2018 (UTC)
 * As far as I know, there are two types of researches, academic and industrial research. The subject belongs to the field of industrial research: https://www.arunmujumdar.com/file/Selected%20Presentations/Academic_Vs_Industrial_R&D.pdf https://www.google.com.ar/search?q=academic+research+vs.+industrial+research&oq=academic+research+vs.+industrial+research&aqs=chrome..69i57j0.17457j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8 I hope this is useful. Bridge2007 (talk) 18:53, 3 December 2018 (UTC)
 * This appears to be a severe misunderstanding of how research works in the context of assessing notability. All this text hasn't really done anything to help the case for notability of this fringe BLP.Kingofaces43 (talk) 03:19, 4 December 2018 (UTC)


 * Delete references given don't provide sufficient evidence of sustained detailed coverage of individual. Agricolae (talk) 18:22, 4 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Weak Delete As far as I can tell, he doesn't meet any of the notability criteria at WP:NPROF. It took longer to determine if WP:GNG is met.  My conclusion was that it was not, because it didn't appear to me that there was enough significant independent coverage of him to meet that standard.  I labeled my vote as weak in case my language skills were not up to the task. Papaursa (talk) 20:58, 4 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep: I have followed the thread and read every text and scan to verify the information. I am fluent in Spanish and Portuguese. I could verify that Notability criteria is met WP:GNG with the provided sources. I believe the subject has significant coverage in sources that can be verified to be reliable and independent secondary sources. Delphinidae9 (talk) 23:43, 4 December 2018 (UTC)


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