Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Peter DeLucia


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. — Mr. Stradivarius  (have a chat) 10:40, 7 October 2012 (UTC)

Peter DeLucia

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This subject fails WP:GNG: he is not the actual topic of coverage by unrelated reliable sources, but rather a spokesperson. The topics he is quoted on may actually be notable, but no reliable source gives the subject coverage of the quality or quantity that could support an encyclopedic biography. To boot, coverage that is at all about this person is exclusively local or sourced to the subject himself. This subject also fails WP:POLITICIAN: his elected position on the Lewisboro town board is not inherently notable. This subject also fails WP:ANYBIO because none of his accomplishments, including appearing on TV shows, amounts to a significant accomplishment. There are indeed WP:LOTSOFSOURCES, but nothing by third parties on which to base an encyclopedic biography. JFHJr (㊟) 23:02, 21 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of New York-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 03:05, 22 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Politicians-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 03:05, 22 September 2012 (UTC)


 * Delete Standard health inspector/township board member who happens to be lucky enough to be in a market where he's on TV a lot. Nothing more exceptional than that.  Nate  • ( chatter ) 03:12, 22 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Dori ☾Talk ☯ Contribs☽ 23:39, 28 September 2012 (UTC)


 * Keep. The article is already well sourced. It would appear that someone has sanitized several of the secondary sources and marked as citation needed, perhaps to aid in deletion. That aside, the person is the subject, or mentioned in, dozens of articles in the Journal News as well as Hersam Acorn Newspapers. Just one would be enough under WP: POL, not to mention the fact that as a recurring character on a major network tv show, would meet WP:ENT. If we followed the line of reasoning set forth in the deletion, we would never have an article on a Paralympian who did not medal - they would be doing something notable without being notable themselves - that is not our policy. Keep. Mrprada911 (talk) 15:12, 29 September 2012 (UTC) — Mrprada911 (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
 * Comment — Passing mention of the subject, especially in coverage of something else entirely, is not the same as substantial coverage of the subject. Contrary to the !vote above, just one of these mentions, especially in local political news, would not meet the burden of "significant coverage by multiple independent reliable sources." The local political coverage, which amounts to a play-by-play of town board election, simply does not indicate notability within the meaning of WP:POLITICIAN as a "major local political [figure] who [has] received significant press coverage" ("A politician who has received 'significant press coverage' has been written about, in depth, independently in multiple news feature articles, by journalists"). WP:ENT requires significant roles in multiple notable shows; being a recurring guest on the one show does not rise to that level. Nobody is talking about Paralympics or the totally different standards they are held to; let's stay on topic. JFHJr (㊟) 18:49, 29 September 2012 (UTC)
 * WP:JNN or WP:IDL aren't valid criterion for deletion. As noted above in tbe lone delete, multiple independent reliable sources exist to verify notabiliy from the TV show alone. Lucky or not, this is the health inspector who is notable enough to contribute to a nationally syndicated show on a regular basis. And if you read through the archive you will note that many of the articles are not just passing election coverage. Mrprada911 (talk) 21:17, 29 September 2012 (UTC)


 * Keep. The subject has appeared in signficant press coverage, as well as having appeared in multiple notable shows. Archivist1174 (talk) 02:18, 5 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete none of the independent coverage is actually about him, merely mentioning him or interviewing him about other subjects. Stuartyeates (talk) 08:09, 5 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Comment. That is simply not accurate, as several of the articles that are listed above or cited in the article itself from Main Street Connect, Hersam Acorn Newspapers and the Journal News are exclusively about the subject (NOT "None.") You can't move the GNG goalpost for WP: IDONTKNOWIT, which is not a valid grounds for deletion. Mrprada911 (talk) 14:52, 5 October 2012 (UTC)
 * The links you posted above are to Wikipedia's articles on Main Street Connect, Hersam Acorn Newspapers, and the Journal News. Instead, please post links to the actual news articles that go towards supporting the DeLucia topic meeting WP:GNG (similar to how I posted links below). Thanks. -- Uzma Gamal (talk) 09:29, 6 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete - The biography topic does not meet WP:GNG. Most of the reliable sources mention his name as running for office or have a quote or two from him about some topic. No source is writing about his life in any meaningful detail. A politician topic, media appearance topic would not meet WP:GNG either. In general, information on DeLucia can be found in The Journal News. Some early mentions: Journal News August 8, 2005, Democrat and Chronicle September 1, 2005. Those have his name and news articles following that have his name. Journal News February 9, 2006 has several sentences of quotes from DeLucia. Obit info October 5, 2006. Journal News October 25, 2007 has more quotes from DeLucia. Journal News October 31, 2007 has some descent biography information. Journal News October 26, 2009 has more of his political thoughts and perhaps one sentence of biographical information. US State News April 22, 2011 is a first source mention of DeLucia being on the Dr. Oz show, but it is a press release and does not count towards WP:GNG. There is not enough reliable source information independent of DeLucia from which to write a stand alone Wikipedia article per WP:GNG. -- Uzma Gamal (talk) 09:29, 6 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete Holding office in a town of 12,000 people does not meet WP:POLITICIAN. Reportage in the hyper-local papers about the local elections, local news (rabid raccoon!) and standard public service announcements (sanitary kitchens!) does not meet WP:GNG. Neither does appearing as a guest on a notable nationwide show, which doesn't amount to significant coverage about him. I suppose the article could be redirected to Lewisboro, New York in lieu of deletion. --MelanieN (talk) 20:47, 6 October 2012 (UTC)
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