Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Peter Forbes (actor)


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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) Sulfurboy (talk) 13:21, 27 April 2020 (UTC)

Peter Forbes (actor)

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Non notable actor. IMDb inappropriately used as the only source. No evidence of other substantial sources that would indicate notability. Cardiffbear88 (talk) 11:04, 4 April 2020 (UTC)
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 * Delete per nom. Fails NACTOR: a few minor or walk-on parts, several of which are merely descriptions (doctor, dad, policeman) rather than named characters. ~dom Kaos~ (talk) 11:28, 4 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep. He has had a major theatre career, with at least two long runs in major roles in the West End, and roles in other major productions.  See this and this.  If someone does an adequate research job (just searching searches his name, really, and together with the name of each show already listed in the WP article, they will find plenty of good references. -- Ssilvers (talk) 04:48, 5 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Ssilvers Please WP:AGF - I did way more than WP:BEFORE and I didn’t spot these. Well done you finding two more sources than I did, but there’s no need to suggest that I just didn’t bother looking - it’s just rude. I will leave it up to other editors to decide whether these are enough to indicate notability. Cardiffbear88 (talk) 07:36, 5 April 2020 (UTC)
 * I apologize and have struck out, I hope, the phrases that offended you. I hope that someone does follow up, though, and find more refs. -- Ssilvers (talk) 05:18, 7 April 2020 (UTC)
 * I hear you on the frustration of people nominating without checking the actor's name and the titles, especially for non-film credits. I'll be adding references shortly. DiamondRemley39 (talk) 20:00, 25 April 2020 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Keep: The article itself isn't great, but I concur with Ssilvers—his starring role in Follies, in particular, is bringing the subject quite a bit of praise. Even if the second source provided by Ssilvers is somewhat of an interview-style article, there are many other articles which provide some coverage, too, like the following: https://www.londontheatre.co.uk/reviews/review-follies-returns-to-the-national-theatre-starring-joanna-riding-and-janie-dee and https://www.theguardian.com/stage/2017/sep/10/follies-olivier-london-review-dominic-cooke-imelda-staunton#img-1. I believe the relevant notability criteria are made out. Dflaw4 (talk) 02:40, 11 April 2020 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Barkeep49 (talk) 02:43, 13 April 2020 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, buidhe 09:37, 20 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep I'm finding coverage of his theatre work in reviews and I will add it to the article. And walk on parts? He played Nathan Detroit and the lead in Follies. DiamondRemley39 (talk) 19:53, 25 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Comment It would seem that Forbes is, first and foremost, a theatre actor; secondly, an audiobook narrator; and has worked on film and in television from time to time. If the additions I have made to the page don't sway voters or the admin closing this, I'd like to bring up that the subject has dozens of audiobook credits that have not been considered and that there is an Audible session with the author of many of the books he's narrated. I've been busy in AfD these past few days and I must second Silvers's request for thoughtful, intensive BEFOREs, especially for BLPs of people who have worked in multiple mediums. It's important to search for performers by the titles of the works they've been in... and go to media databases for pre-internet era coverage. I would also encourage nominators to add what they've found in their BEFORE to the article or to the AfD discussion--otherwise we don't know what has not been found or what the nominator has considered and finds to be not enough. DiamondRemley39 (talk) 14:15, 26 April 2020 (UTC)
 * comment I also found a review (https://books.google.com/books?id=-oNpAAAAMAAJ&q=peter+forbes+actor&dq=peter+forbes+actor&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiVn-_mkYTpAhXDHc0KHcW8CN0Q6AEIXDAI) in Google books, but as I can't view the theatre and haven't been able to tell which one, I won't add it to the article. DiamondRemley39 (talk) 15:28, 26 April 2020 (UTC)
 * DiamondRemley39 I hope you’re not suggesting that I didn’t complete WP:BEFORE. As you will know, BEFORE is not exhaustive and just because someone has found sources doesn’t mean I didn’t bother looking. I don’t know why I keep having to explain this to editors. Cardiffbear88 (talk) 15:54, 26 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Cardiffbear88  I didn't say that and you don't have to keep explaining anything to anyone. DiamondRemley39 (talk) 16:22, 26 April 2020 (UTC)


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