Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Peter Igesumai


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The result was delete. Whilst there is clear consensus to delete based on gng, I would recommend a number of participating editors refresh their knowledge of NFOOTY, as it clearly states that notability is presumed of the player in question has featured in a match organised at confederation level and sources in this discussion confirm this to be the case Fenix down (talk) 12:06, 28 March 2021 (UTC)

Peter Igesumai

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Fails WP:NFOOTY as Micronesia are not affiliated to FIFA and has never played in a professional league. No evidence he meets WP:GNG. Stevie fae Scotland (talk) 10:29, 21 March 2021 (UTC)
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 * Keep - We've been over this before with regards to Micronesian players (see Articles for deletion/Atantaake Tooma). It was established that the 2003 South Pacific Games was an OFC organised tournament (source), thus all players from this specific tournament are eligible for pages. Davidlofgren1996 (talk) 10:40, 21 March 2021 (UTC)
 * The result of that AfD was no consensus and the closer specifically said that AfDs are not the place to quibble over notability guidelines nor to run "test cases" so it was not established that all players from that tournament were eligible for pages. They may have presumed notability but for none of those players or for Peter Igesumai has it been established that they meet the general notability guidelines which supersede any presumed notability. Per WP:BLP1E, anyone who is just notable because they played in that one tournament would not be eligible for a standalone article as it is the event that is notable rather than the individual. Some people who competed in that tournament may well be individually notable but that would need to be established by significant coverage in reliable sources. Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information, that is for the countless football statistics websites that list every person that kicked a ball a few times and, as they are the only online sources available, that does not convey significant coverage. Stevie fae Scotland (talk) 12:25, 21 March 2021 (UTC)
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 * Delete. NFOOTY clearly requires the international games to be between A-teams. South Pacific Games aren't counted by FIFA as a A-level games even when two FIFA members involved. And Micronesia not only not a FIFA member, they aren't OFC member either. Whether the tournament is run by OFC is irrelevant, there are lots of competitions organized by confederations that don't qualify players for wiki article. —BlameRuiner (talk) 11:48, 21 March 2021 (UTC)
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 * Delete: Most certainly fails WP:GNG. I will argue he fails WP:NFOOTY per above. --ArsenalFan700 (talk) 15:58, 21 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete - even if this player passes NFOOTBALL - and it's a big IF, given the issues raised above about the nation he represented, more importantly he fails GNG. GiantSnowman 19:18, 21 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete - fails GNG and does not pass NFOOTBALL due to the above. Kolma8 (talk) 20:45, 21 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete clearly fails GNG. Fails football notability by miles.John Pack Lambert (talk) 19:59, 22 March 2021 (UTC)


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