Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Peter Keely


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus. While it seems to be agreed that the subject doesn't meet WP:NFOOTY, the question of whether the subject meets WP:GNG is still unclear. As more sources have come up during the AfD, the article should be expanded now - or merged, as one participant suggested - to prevent a future AFD. – filelakeshoe (t / c) 🐱 17:05, 23 June 2019 (UTC)

Peter Keely

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Footballer who fails GNG and NFOOTY. No appearances for national team or in fully-pro league. Insufficient media coverage for GNG. BlameRuiner (talk) 08:35, 31 May 2019 (UTC)
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 * Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 10:48, 31 May 2019 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Delete - fails WP:GNG and WP:NFOOTBALL. GiantSnowman 10:58, 31 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Weak keep I can't find anything on the internet that's not already in the article apart from verifying he played (aside: look at the nickname for his teammate in the 1950-51 season!) and  noting his death among the important Irish sportspersons who died in 2004. I do note that gives two different dates for the year of death, and  (a potentially unreliable blog) gives Peter Keely at over 300 appearances for Shelbourne. That being said, a search into Irish newspapers at the time, which I'm unfortunately locked out of, gives some hits, not surprising considering Keely won two titles, played on the losing side in two cup finals, and, at worst, played over 100 games in a league which was well covered by the media at the time he played, at a time when football in Germany wasn't even fully professional. That being said I don't have time to research and expand this article. SportingFlyer  T · C  23:00, 31 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep - I've added several recent references to the article. The biggest challenge is the access to heavily paywalled 1940s and 1950s sources - I'm surprised how many mentions of him I can find in recent decades in the media - the issue here appears to access to 60 and 70-year old sources. Nfitz (talk) 19:33, 2 June 2019 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Fenix down (talk) 17:37, 7 June 2019 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Delete per WP:NFOOTY failure. Number   5  7  12:05, 13 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Weak keep I have added a couple of sources to the article. Apart from access to digitised newspapers of the 1940s and 50s, there are issues about search results in uncorrected OCR text, and how many title have not yet been digitised, so there are probably more than the 2 sources from that period which have been found and included. If the article is not kept, I suggest a MERGE to his son's article, specifically the section Dermot_Keely, which currently only says "His late father Peter Keely played for Shelbourne". RebeccaGreen (talk) 03:57, 15 June 2019 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Fenix down (talk) 06:22, 15 June 2019 (UTC)


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