Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Peter Michaels


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. (soft)  slakr  \ talk / 09:10, 13 December 2014 (UTC)

Peter Michaels

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GNG, no refs, empty article. EBY (talk) 18:15, 18 November 2014 (UTC)

Please I hope you will give me a chance to complete the first draft of the article. Onlydemi (talk) 18:50, 18 November 2014 (UTC)


 * Comment to Onlydemi - In the future, it would be better to write drafts in your sandbox or other non-article space instead of publishing them to the encyclopedia. When you put an article up, it should be complete and meet all Wikipedia article requirements. There are some easy to follow instructions here. EBY (talk) 22:28, 18 November 2014 (UTC)


 * Hi Onlydemi; deletion discussions run for a week, so my advice is to carry on improving the article. You'll need some sources to show that he meets the notability guidelines, so maybe focus on that as much as content. Dylanfromthenorth (talk) 18:57, 18 November 2014 (UTC)


 * Delete, at the moment. I couldn't find any significant coverage in reliable sources that would suggest the subject meets the general notability guideline or the more specific guideline for creative professionals. However, it looks like the article is a work-in-progress, so if the editor doing that provides some good sources (possible since Michaels' Movie Madness is from the late 80's so sources may be offline), I could be swayed. Dylanfromthenorth (talk) 18:55, 18 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Actors and filmmakers-related deletion discussions. NorthAmerica1000 16:14, 19 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of United States of America-related deletion discussions. NorthAmerica1000 16:14, 19 November 2014 (UTC)


 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, NorthAmerica1000 20:47, 25 November 2014 (UTC)



I apologize for publishing the page rather than starting it in my sandbox. I am adding references as I get them, you are indeed correct, there isn't much available online due to the time period involved, however there is a significant amount of information that needs to be uploaded to the Commons (I have added some already). Are YouTube videos allowed as clips from Michaels Movie Madness for example? Thanks. Onlydemi (talk) 13:28, 30 November 2014 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, NorthAmerica1000 23:05, 2 December 2014 (UTC)
 * to EBY. The article was nominated for deletion 20 minutes after it was created.  That's a little eager to delete what was an in progress article.  Onlydemi, Youtube videos are not considered independent articles and Reliable Sources and therefore don't help the article pass the wp:GNG.  Also you might consider adding the page to a Wikiproject.  I'm going to say soft keep based on the cult nature of the series and the fact it was from the late 80s meaning that the sources should exist (thus passing wp:N) even if we don't actually have them. Neonchameleon (talk) 16:13, 8 December 2014 (UTC)

Neonchameleon - The trout's fine, I like it with a little lemon. As Dylanfromthenorth pointed out, the nom gave the editor a week to establish GNG. Plenty of time. Or, you know, the editor could stick one of those handy 'new page' tags at the top to let people know what was going on. If you look at what went up originally, it was basically a pointer to the subject's blog.EBY (talk) 16:39, 8 December 2014 (UTC)
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