Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Peter Pepper (2nd nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. -- Cirt (talk) 03:03, 30 October 2010 (UTC)

Peter Pepper
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Recreation of article that has already been deleted twice, the last time was when a "new user" copy/pasted the previously deleted article. As said at the previous AfD, self published work, blogs, and facebook accounts do not establish notability. nsaum75 ¡שיחת! &lrm; 02:40, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete, per WP:GNG. I've tried to look for secondary reliable sources, but there are none. AgadaUrbanit (talk) 02:53, 23 October 2010 (UTC)

This article may need work, but it is a notable subject. Just needs some time. 7edde (talk) 18:32, 23 October 2010 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom, AgadaUrbanit, and WP:BAND. No evidence of notability. JNW (talk) 03:55, 23 October 2010 (UTC)


 * Notable Google returns over 60,000 results for the band alone. And there have been multiple, country-wide concert tours and tours with other notable, billboard charting artists. 7edde (talk) 05:34, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Note to closing admin, is a new user who appeared right after the AfD was instituted and whose editing history also suggests he is the IP address that effectively voted "keep" above. -- nsaum75 ¡שיחת! &lrm; 16:34, 23 October 2010 (UTC)


 * Delete no evidence things have significantly changed (or indeed changed at all) since the last deletion decision. Doesn't pass WP:MUSIC.  Should probably also be SALTed. Andrew Lenahan -  St ar bli nd  15:33, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete no evidence of notability, and looks like (self?)-promotion attempt. --ElComandanteChe (talk) 16:45, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
 * note that was my post under an IP address before having an account. 7edde (talk) 18:29, 23 October 2010 (UTC)


 * Keep per Wikipedia:Notability (music). These guys have notable releases and toured the US. I'd like to help get the references up to par Jasonb80 (talk) 20:02, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Note additional citation has be added to the article. Jasonb80 (talk) 23:30, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Posts in publically-editable forums are not WP:RS, and blog entries that list the names of bands playing at minor venues does not establish Notability. If that were the case, every high school or college band would qualify for a Wikipedia article. There needs to be third party articles ABOUT the article subject that are written by mainstream media outlets; having ones name appear in a list of bands playing at a venue like "Foosian Village Art Festival" does not make one notable. So far, both Peter Pepper and the band he is sometimes associated with, have failed to produce WP:RS in Google and other searches. I appreciate your efforts to improve the article, but perhaps Mr. Pepper needs to gain a bit more fame and notarity before having his own Wikipedia article.  -- nsaum75 ¡שיחת! &lrm; 00:23, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
 * National performances at concert venues with capacities over 1000 people such as House of Blues, the Masquerade and the like does establish Notability. Additionally, having completed one or more concert tours of a major world market also establishes Notability. And those tours being shared with other notable bands such as the Mindless Self Indulgence (held the #1 #2 and #5 positions, US Billboard Hot Singles Sales simultaneously), Combichrist (spent more than 6 weeks in the top 10 Hot Dance Billboard Charts) and others also establishes Notability. This article needs work, I agree, so I've added a Refimprove to the article and will continue to improve. Jasonb80 (talk) 20:34, 24 October 2010 (UTC)


 * Delete Go on, then. Produce the goods and I'll turn. To a poster above - that's not 60,000 ghits for the band. There's a variety of chilli, '23 people in the UK', a company apparently named 'PETER PEPPER & DUSTY BIN', a character from BurgerTime (whatever the heck that is...) and Peter Pepper Products - all in the first three pages. One mention there for the band. This article. Peridon (talk) 20:14, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
 * note there are over 60,000 Google results for subject's music group "Retard-o-bot". 7edde (talk) 20:26, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
 * 142,000 on google.co.uk... The first 12 pages consisted entirely of what I feel are unreliable sources by Wikipedia (WP:RS. I gave up and returned to my tea then. WP:BURDEN Peridon (talk) 20:34, 23 October 2010 (UTC)


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 01:20, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
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