Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Peters Canyon Elementary School


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   no consensus. Merge/redirect discussion may be continued on the article's talk page.   A rbitrarily 0   ( talk ) 03:20, 19 September 2010 (UTC)

Peters Canyon Elementary School

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No real assertion of notability. It is an elementary school, like thousands of other schools. Not notable  Pur ple  back pack 89    07:29, 11 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep Every educational establishment, long-term organizations and historical buildings should have a place on Wikipedia. --Diego Grez (talk) 14:58, 11 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete: According to WP:ORG a school ... "is notable if it has been the subject of significant coverage in secondary sources". This one fails.-- Lester  15:25, 11 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Tustin Unified School District per the usual procedure. Deor (talk) 15:41, 11 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Tustin Unified School District per Deor. Derild  49  21  ☼  16:03, 11 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete or redirect not notable because it is not a "subject of significant coverage in secondary sources"— Chris! c / t 18:03, 11 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of California-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 19:15, 11 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Schools-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 19:15, 11 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep. The school was named a Blue Ribbon school, the highest honor a school can receive in the US. Schools receiving this outcome are generally kept. tedder (talk) 20:43, 11 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment: "Schools receiving this outcome are generally kept"??? If that was so, it would be stated in the Wikipedia guidelines. However, in the case of this school, there are no major secondary sources about its awards, which displays a lack of public interest in the subject. It should be deleted per WP:ORG.-- Lester  10:19, 12 September 2010 (UTC)
 * It's covered in the (failed) schools notability guideline: Notability (schools). I doubt I'm going to convince you on this, but my opinion is that WP:N is met by having achieved the highest honor possible for a school in the US. It's the equivalent of a runner winning a gold medal at the Olympics- even if the local press doesn't write about it, the runner still meets WP:N. tedder (talk) 14:49, 12 September 2010 (UTC)
 * And I just found (and added) the "major secondary sources about its awards". tedder (talk) 15:07, 12 September 2010 (UTC)


 * Keep The school has received multiple state and national awards, backed by multiple reliable and verifiable sources to establish notability. Alansohn (talk) 02:13, 13 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Redirect/Merge to Tustin Unified School District per usual practice. Nice try, Tedder. But of the ten references provided, the first is not even about the school (mentions it in passing). The second and third are about the California Distinguished School award, a status so common that half the schools in San Diego have earned it at one time or another. The fourth through eighth are about the Blue Ribbon School award, which is so non-notable that three schools in the Tustin Unified School District and four in Orange County won it that same year, according to the references provided. According to this reference, 34 schools in California get the Blue Ribbon School award every year. (Hardly the equivalent of an Olympic gold medal!) Finally, the ninth and tenth references are trivial stories about a student-run garden at the school.  --MelanieN (talk) 14:58, 13 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Melanie, I'm sure you know numbers aren't great to use as an indicator of notability. Certainly California wins many Blue Ribbon schools, as it has a huge population (12% of the US). But if you really want to run the numbers argument, there were 86 gold medals at the most recent Winter Olympics, and 302 gold medals at the recent Summer Olympics. That sounds like the equivalent of an Olympic gold medal to me. tedder (talk) 15:47, 13 September 2010 (UTC)
 * We'll agree to disagree about that. Any award which is won by hundreds of schools a year doesn't seem to me like it singles that school out as particularly notable. We'd be overrun with articles about run-of-the-mill schools if we accepted the Blue Ribbon award as an automatic "keep". --MelanieN (talk) 16:23, 13 September 2010 (UTC)


 * Keep, per the usual practice of keeping blue ribbon schools. T. Canens (talk) 01:45, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep Being a Blue Ribbon school indicates notability, as it is the highest honor a United States school can receive. This is not an "ordinary" school.  — fetch ·  comms   02:30, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
 * redirect to Tustin Unified School District Usual practise. Spartaz Humbug! 02:52, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.