Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Petia Pavlova


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The result was   keep. Black Kite (talk) 18:18, 13 October 2013 (UTC)

Petia Pavlova

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Article uses a lot of words, but says very little that makes her notable. Searches for both "Petia Pavlova" and "Петя Павлова" have turned up no reputable sourcing beyond a single mention in Billboard. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 02:26, 28 September 2013 (UTC)


 * Keep - The Billboard item identifies her as a top Bulgarian model including being selected as the face of Pepe Jeans in Bulgaria as well as noting some success in her singing career. Her musical career has further coverage with this article.  She also has gotten into fashion as evidenced by this.  In addition to all this, she has also appeared on VIP Brother 2.  I suspect somebody proficient in Bulgarian would be able to add to this list. -- Whpq (talk) 02:50, 28 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Comment. I don't claim any proficiency in Bulgarian, but I did find this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, and quite a few more, mostly by searching the Bulgarian Google News. --Michig (talk) 12:12, 28 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bulgaria-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 16:07, 28 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of United Kingdom-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 16:07, 28 September 2013 (UTC)
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 * Note - The article was moved to Petia (entertainer) during this AFD. -- Whpq (talk) 18:57, 1 October 2013 (UTC)
 * I don`t see a reason for this article to be deleted – is informative, the information is correct and serves its purposes. The Billboard article is an old article dated 1997. Petia is not a model, she is a singer / songwriter with 3 album and many singles releases worldwide and most of the model – type pictures that we see of her are from magazine articles about her as an Entertainer . Searches for Petia produced plenty of reputable sourcing all over internet and deleting the article about her on Wikipedia is unreasonable. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.134.52.95 (talk • contribs)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Mark Arsten (talk) 02:37, 5 October 2013 (UTC)


 * Keep - per Bulgarian sources and Billboard - 1 Feb 1997 - Page 49 "... Petia Pavlova launched a new career as a singer when she released her debut album, "Suniat" (The Dream), in 1994. The following year she recorded 14 songs from films and musicals for "Let's Make Love," an album released to mark the ..." However there appears to be a significant WP:COI issue with the bio, I have reverted (the singer's agent?) back to a standard en.wp BLP lead per WP:OPENPARA. Have also moved from (entertainer) to (singer) per Billboard description, there have been a succession of RMs on the (entertainer) dab and it has held only for 1 or 2 very special exceptions. In ictu oculi (talk) 06:39, 8 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep - Relative unknown in US but famous in her country, keep the article but remove/delete all the images, none pass the copyright criteria...--Stemoc (talk) 05:32, 10 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Comment - Two of the have permissions registered with OTRS. -- Whpq (talk) 12:53, 10 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Comment - I always doubt most of this OTRS claims, If this was allowed via OTRS then why did they not supply a higher definition pic like the one they used on her IMDb (http://www.imdb.com/media/rm1450688256/nm3961384)? Anyone can easily claim to be her agent--Stemoc (talk) 13:14, 10 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Given that photos donated to commons must be under a sufficiently free license, it's plausible that they are only willing to release a lower resolution version of a publicity photo for use under a free license. -- Whpq (talk) 18:39, 10 October 2013 (UTC)


 * Keep - We should consider several point in this discussion. First of all there are several sources on the web than can provide deeper informations about Petia as singer, as model, as host etc. If we take a deeper look at the sources everyone can find out that she starts her career in Bulgaria, lived and studied in Great Britain and now lives in the United States, where she still is working in different fields. Her Music is listed in the iTunes store in several countries for example. So taking a deeper look at this sources we should also respect that she wants to appear publicly only with her artist name PETIA and not with her full "normal" name. There is always a reason why artist and musicians enter the public stage with their artist name and not primarly with their family name - sometimes the reasons are so simple as security issues. When people search for Petia on the web they should find a wikipedia as compilation of a brighter view of an artist. That is the reason we shuld keep her listed in the english version of wikipedia too. Her audience is international and we should deliver for a wider audience our resources. After examine several sources i found on the web about her I think that the expression PETIA (entertainer) is the most common one, which provides the widest overlook of the artist. "Filontheroad (talk) 12:02, 12 October 2013 (UTC)"
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