Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Petsense


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   Delete. Initially I had some misgivings, but the more I searched, the more apparent it became that there simply are no reliable sources that have given coverage to this company. Xymmax So let it be written   So let it be done  14:29, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

Petsense
This company seems entirely unnotable. The article reads like an advertisement and has only one external link, which is to the company's own official website. Seems like an easy delete to me. -- Copy Editor (talk) 07:58, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete Company makes no real claim of notability in the article, a search turns up only blog entries, advertisements and the company's own website. Fails WP:CORP.  Theseeker4 (talk) 14:35, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep Article needs to be referenced. ChildofMidnight (talk) 19:41, 14 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment: As Threseeker4 mentioned, and as I mentioned in my nomination, there are no notable references to this company. Therefore, it's basically impossible to "reference" this article. Thanks. -- Copy Editor (talk) 19:54, 14 November 2008 (UTC)
 * They aren't great references, but I added a couple to the article. I think a chain of pet stores is notable, and if someone wants to hunt up better references they would be able to do so. The company exists and is large enough to be notable as demonstrated by the weak sources I added. ChildofMidnight (talk) 19:56, 14 November 2008 (UTC)
 * You yourself describe them as "weak sources." That says in and of itself that this is not a notable company. So far, the sources you added were from: "callcenterinfo.com" (not a notable reference); an incidental and passing reference in a non-notable publication called "crittendenonline.com", and at any rate the article is about PetSmart and not PetSense; and finally you added links to the company's own official site, which does not qualify as a notable or third-party source. Thanks for the efforts, but this just isn't a notable company. -- Copy Editor (talk) 20:07, 14 November 2008 (UTC)
 * You make a lot of good points, but I've come to a different conclusion. It was founded by the founder of Petsmart, and it's a fairly large chain of retail stores. I concluded it is in fact notable and I suspect there is other coverage of it in established published sources, if not those readily available by an internet search. ChildofMidnight (talk) 20:53, 14 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks for taking my point well. If it was in fact founded by the founder of PetSmart we are still faced with the issue of not having a reliable third-party notable source that says this. Even it if was indeed founded by the founder of PetSmart and we do find a third party reliable source that says this, I'm not sure if the simple fact of the identity of its founder can make this company notable in and of itself. What has this company achieved on its own? So far, it seems to be the footnote in the biography of a man not even deemed notable enough to have his own biography on Wikipedia. Thanks. -- Copy Editor (talk) 00:21, 15 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Business-related deletion discussions.   -- Raven1977 (talk) 05:48, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Weak keep significant chain, references needed. however. DGG (talk) 08:23, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete Not important. Keyshours (talk) 19:14, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete Does not appear to possess the requisite notability. Enterquick2008 (talk) 08:23, 18 November 2008 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.