Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Phantasmagoria: The Visions of Lewis Carroll


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was redirect to Marilyn Manson. Redirects are cheap. (non-admin closure)  J 947  04:18, 15 March 2017 (UTC)

Phantasmagoria: The Visions of Lewis Carroll

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The film never went into production. Fails WP:NFF. Koala15 (talk) 08:07, 19 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Film-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 18:01, 19 February 2017 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Comment: This seems to already be fairly well covered at Marilyn_Manson and the only thing it's really missed was the 2015 AMA information where he says that he's withdrawn from the project, which I've since added. The rest of it is very general and to be honest, comes across as a bit of a fan love note to Manson, especially the Redefinition of horror genre section. It's also a large WP:QUOTEFARM and some of this comes across a little like conjecture or original research. Once we whittled down those sections there's not a lot there that would really need to be in the main article. Given that Manson was so deeply involved in pretty much all aspects of the film, it's very unlikely that this will go forward without his involvement. It's possible that he'll change his mind, but his 2015 statement seems like he's definitely moved on to other things and won't be working on the movie. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡)  03:50, 20 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Redirect per my statement above. If/when this does get made, we can always restore the article. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡)  04:45, 23 February 2017 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Kurykh (talk) 04:46, 27 February 2017 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  J 947  02:48, 7 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Redirect to as suggests. Unproduced project with no evidence of independent notability. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 03:06, 15 March 2017 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.