Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Phil Laeger


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Vanamonde (Talk) 19:25, 23 January 2023 (UTC)

Phil Laeger

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Sources & claims inadequate to establish notability TheLongTone (talk) 15:54, 9 January 2023 (UTC) Relisting comment: Relisting as there is an unstated "Keep" argument here. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 16:44, 16 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Bands and musicians, Christianity,  and Tennessee. Skynxnex (talk) 16:22, 9 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom and a search for additional sources. ~ Pbritti (talk) 00:06, 10 January 2023 (UTC)
 * In bullet point 4 of Wikipedia:Notability (music), it says "Has written a composition that has won...a major music competition not established expressly for newcomers." In 2006, Phil Laeger's song “America” won the National Day of Prayer song search competition. The competition was conducted nationally, with the winning entry recorded by major label artist Rebecca St James. While the original website no longer exists, here is a capture of the site after the competition concluded. https://web.archive.org/web/20060209172637/http://ndpsongsearch.com/index.html Theprussianbard (talk) 07:36, 10 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Niche rather than major imoTheLongTone (talk) 15:04, 10 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Do you mean the artist is niche? Or the competition? Theprussianbard (talk) 10:17, 11 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Ok, as I understand it, “niche” is not grounds for deletion, per this article: Obscure does not mean not notable - is that correct? The songwriting competition was held/sponsored by a nationally well-known 40-year old organization, and judged by several Grammy and Dove winning artists. The winner received a publishing deal, and the song was recorded by a major label artist. Theprussianbard (talk) 10:39, 11 January 2023 (UTC)
 * DeleteDoes not appear to pass WP:BASIC (the article doesn't cite multiple, independent secondary sources and neither does a google search turn up such) or
 * WP:CREATIVE. Hmee2 (talk) 19:16, 12 January 2023 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Delete I am not convinced that the National Day of Prayer song search competition meets a NMUSIC pass. The competition itself seems to come up short of WP:GNG and is lacking any mention in the National Day of Prayer article. Best, GPL93 (talk) 18:17, 23 January 2023 (UTC)


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