Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Phil and Lil DeVille


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The result was   keep. Discuss potential merge elsewhere. – Juliancolton  &#124; Talk 00:36, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

Phil and Lil DeVille

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Delete or Merge. I don't see anywhere of more than one character in SpongeBob SquarePants or The Fairly OddParents having their own pages. If the result is merge, merge to List of Rugrats characters. Marcus2 (talk) 15:39, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete because it'll likely get undone by a slobbering fanboy if redirected. There are no out of universe sources for the character. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Many otters • One bat • One hammer) 16:48, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Merge to a list of Rugrats characters. This and the other nominations around it all belong in a list of Rugrats characters (as many movies, movie series, and TV series have such lists.  I don't see why Rugrats wouldn't qualify for such a list).Tyrenon (talk) 20:24, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep and add sourcing and commentary. Merge as a last resort, it seems large enough for a standalone article. While there are no standalone SpongeBob SquarePants for main characters, there are for many others including Moe Szyslak and Kenny McCormick. Choosing SpongeBob SquarePants and ignoring Simpsons and South Park is called the Strawman fallacy. --Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) (talk) 20:35, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
 * I don't see it as a strawman attempt as much as picking the two nearest examples (i.e. all three are Nickelodeon shows) to point to. That said, I'm inclined to suggest that the Simpsons (which is going on its 20th season and has always been on a broadcast network) is something of an apples and oranges example with respect to its long run.  South Park may be a better comparison (it's only at 13 episodes seasons, and on cable), but it's also more ingrained in popular culture (not to mention more widely viewed, if ratings are any indicator) than are any Nickelodeon shows I can think of off the top of my head.  If anything, comparing Rugrats to The Simpsons is an attempt at a straw man considering the popularity differences involved (which, for the record, I don't think you were trying to do; I just think your examples were somewhat mismatched).Tyrenon (talk) 04:22, 28 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Fictional elements-related deletion discussions.  -- TexasAndroid (talk) 22:05, 28 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep Notable characters in two hit cartoon series, and they played a notable role in two successful movies(the movies grossing hundreds of millions of dollars).  D r e a m Focus  01:47, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep - Most of these are notable, and some aren't. I don't have the time, inclination, or lexisnexis account needed to turn them into GAs, but it's possible. - Peregrine Fisher (talk) (contribs) 05:41, 30 May 2009 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.