Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Philip De Carteret, 6th of St Ouen


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The result was delete. &spades;PMC&spades; (talk) 15:31, 20 September 2018 (UTC)

Philip De Carteret, 6th of St Ouen

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I can't verify a "Philippe de Carteret" born ca. 1402, nor a "Philippe de Carteret" who did anything notable in 1467, nor the claim that the poem about the Carteret Leap is about this person specifically. The article (which, as was claimed in 2007 already, looks suspiciously like a copy from somewhere else, but no source has been found) is very flowery, but presents very few facts or even clues about the actual subject, making for a rather frustrating read and search for facts. There was an important Carteret family in Jersey, seigneurs de Saint Ouen, but I just can't verify the existence of this one, never mind the claims about his life in this article. Fram (talk) 08:51, 12 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete - a similar story can be fund here but it post dates the Wikipedia article so may not represent a copy-vio. Nevertheless, there is no evidence of notability or any relevant historical context. Fails WP:GNG
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 * Comment - I have tagged the article for suspected copyvios. The sources of the text in turn cite original sources. Curb Safe Charmer (talk) 21:02, 12 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Comment I am currently specializing in Jersey articles and history. I am going to investigate further, both online and in books on Jersey. Please do not make a hasty deletion. The article as written seems unlikely or perhaps legend.--Dthomsen8 (talk) 01:41, 13 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Comment See https://members.societe-jersiaise.org/whitsco/rom3.htm, about "The Famous De Carteret Family ", published by the Société Jersiaise, of which I am a member.--Dthomsen8 (talk) 01:51, 13 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete Not enough references or historical evidence to keep or even revise this article. I removed the poem, and did some slight copyediting to remove "you" but the article is still not notable and should be deleted.--Dthomsen8 (talk) 17:59, 17 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Jersey-related deletion discussions.--Dthomsen8 (talk) 18:15, 17 September 2018 (UTC)


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