Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Philip F. Johndrow


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The result was delete.  Sandstein  10:47, 27 September 2015 (UTC)

Philip F. Johndrow

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armycruft notability tagged for 5 years Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 06:21, 19 September 2015 (UTC)
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 * Delete. Senior NCO. No real notability. -- Necrothesp (talk) 14:30, 19 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep: I would give him the benefit of the doubt here (a rarity I assure you in my case). While the tone of the article needs improving (and I tagged it accordingly), I don't believe "armycruft notability tagged for 5 years" is sufficient reason for deletion. I am, of course, open-minded and willing to change my mind based on any other rationales for deletion that may arise here. Quis separabit?  14:44, 20 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Surely a good reason for deletion is the fact that he's not notable? In what way is he any more significant than any other NCO in any other army in the world? He has no decorations that raise him above the others. He's done nothing that raises him above the others. He's just a senior NCO who's done a good job and has had a distinguished career within his field. So have many thousands of others. We almost never keep articles on NCOs unless they have significant decorations for gallantry. A Bronze Star most certainly doesn't count - it's so low as not even to count as a medal in most countries (a 4th level award at the most generous). -- Necrothesp (talk) 15:21, 22 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete - insufficient coverage to establish notability per WP:GNG (there isn't enough to even write a half way complete biography with significant details of his life missing for instance). A commendable career but nothing more than that as far as I can see (42 months in Iraq!). I cannot find anything to support the claim that he is the recipient of the Order of St George (although I only did a quick Google search). Is anyone in a posn to verify that? Seems a bit strange to me that a US Army SNCO would receive a Russian award that's all (or is this referring to some other award of a similar name - there appear to be a few just going by our dab page Order of St. George (disambiguation))... Anotherclown (talk) 07:41, 25 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete - Found a nice article at the Post here, and some mentions in books. The rest were press releases. Distinguished does not always translate into notable.  Onel 5969  TT me 17:33, 26 September 2015 (UTC)


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