Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Philip Lindholm


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   no consensus. Cirt (talk) 16:56, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

Philip Lindholm

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Non-notable singer/actor/whatever. His imdb page doesn't show any notability as far as actors is concerned, and other than that, he doesn't seem to be notable for any other reasons. Woogee (talk) 22:59, 28 January 2010 (UTC)

Seems like he's done a lot of stuff, and it seems legit. How old is he?

I disagree. I saw him on that Da Vinci Code documentary and he was great!
 * The above editor is the same editor that made edits like this in the article. Woogee (talk) 22:40, 29 January 2010 (UTC)

I saw Philip give a lecture at Oxford a couple years ago on media and culture. He was really great. I think he deserves an entry here as a lecturer, and I can't wait to hear his record. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.86.232.106 (talk) 14:29, 30 January 2010 (UTC) — 78.86.232.106 (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. I don't know much about Wikipedia policies, but Dr. Lindholm is one of my professors here at Oxford and is notable in the field of Kierkegaardian studies, if I may speak to his academic side. I think his article should not be deleted, for whatever that is worth, particularly since I have not edited a Wikipedia article before (and don't really plan to in the future). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 163.1.89.19 (talk) 07:08, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Weak keep Keep He did have the lead in a BBC TV movie; that might qualify him as notable. Everything else is minor - technical credits, "upcoming" books, etc. - and does not qualify him as notable.  In any case the article (if kept) needs to be seriously rewritten to become encyclopedic instead of boosterish, and the unsourced brags need to be removed. (By the way, anonymous comments along the lines of "he was great!" have no impact here. Notability needs to be established by independent, mainstream reporting.) --MelanieN (talk) 22:55, 31 January 2010 (UTC)MelanieN
 * I have changed my vote to "keep" based on the academic credentials verified at the site. I originally wondered if the academic stuff might refer to a different Philip Lindholm, since the article is mostly about his entertainment career, and the picture shows a very young man. But following the academic links there is a picture of the same man, and the links indicate that he does present at scholarly conferences. Google search describes him as an adjunct tutor (not exactly a professor, but still) at Oxford. That post in itself would not make him notable, but the combination of television actor/academic makes him much more interesting. We could add author to the list, since I see he contributed a chapter (about Kierkegaard) to Metallica and philosophy: a crash course in brain surgery by William Irwin. --MelanieN (talk) 15:20, 1 February 2010 (UTC)MelanieN
 * What makes those credentials noteworthy, and what makes his acting credits noteworthy? Woogee (talk) 22:40, 1 February 2010 (UTC)

 Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Scott Mac (Doc) 13:44, 5 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment. What gives with all the commercial links to amazon.com?  How does that not violate WP:EL?  Just curious.   JBsupreme  ( talk ) 09:52, 5 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.


 * Keep - a singer, songwriter, who had the lead in a nationally aired BBC movie, presented another nationally aired ITV programme, and now teaches about Kierkegaard in Oxford? If that's all true, he's clearly notable. That's not your average singer songwriter. --GRuban (talk) 14:52, 5 February 2010 (UTC)
 * The 'lecturer at Oxford' might be a bit misleading. He is a guest lecturer for the Oxford Centre for Christian Apologetics, which is affiliated to Wycliffe Hall, Oxford. As such he's not an Oxford University lecturer. It appears that he is completing a PHD on Kierkegaard, but I am not sure what his lectures involve. The BBC programme seems to be described here - doesn't look like a nationally broadcast movie. I can't find out much about "In Pursuit of The Da Vinci Code", but I think he was one of three people who interviewed people for the programme (the main presenter/narrator being Caroline Quentin. That does appear to have been shown nationally. He could well have been the creator of "The Muslim Jesus" but sources talking about the programme don't seem to mention him (e.g. this). The references for his music don't look like the best sources, but there might be something in it. Overall, he is clearly a very busy chap, and perhaps hovers around the fuzzy line of notability. Ultimately we could really do with some better sources, because at the moment there don't seem to be any that jump out as being particularly good. Quantpole (talk) 15:51, 5 February 2010 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.