Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Philip morris & son


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. Ron Ritzman (talk) 01:29, 23 March 2012 (UTC)

Philip morris & son

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Despite its longevity, this local vendor from Hereford does not appear to have made a sufficient name for itself to be considered notable. WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 15:55, 15 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Is this related to Philip Morris USA? If yes, merge pertinent information, if not delete and redirect. EnvoyClass (talk) 15:58, 15 March 2012 (UTC)
 * No it isn't related. Redirect to where? Is there another article that's relevant to this business? 79.123.73.226 (talk) 16:08, 15 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Comment Since this company is not related to the American cigarette manufacturer, a redirect is not a proper action. Since this local store is not a subsidiary of any other company, there is no valid redirect target.    Either keep or delete.  WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 16:13, 15 March 2012 (UTC)
 * I disagree. It IS plausible that somebody would type this in while looking for the cigarette manufacturer, and a redirect would be appropriate. EnvoyClass (talk) 17:50, 21 March 2012 (UTC)
 * I don't follow your logic. The name of the US tobacco company is Philip Morris USA.  If one were looking for that company, by the time they had typed in "Philip Morris", the search lookahead feature would already have offered Philip Morris USA as the most likely target.  By offering Philip Morris & Son as a likely target, the rare searcher who knows of the store in Hereford might select that option, and be brought quite surprisingly to an article about a tobacco product manufacturer, rather than the article about the local retailer that they were expecting.  Following Wikipedia's principle of least astonishment, we should really not have a redirect.  WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 18:00, 21 March 2012 (UTC)

Philip Morris & Son in the UK has been Est.1845 so history exists. For a long time it has been thought that it is connected to the tobacco industry which is incorrect. Please keep and add to the history. Dean Johnston (talk) 16:35, 15 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete for now. While I did find a couple of third party sources that talked about the store, namely here  and here, I'm not sure how reliable they are since they read more like advertisments than credible sources to establish notability.  Rorshacma (talk) 17:29, 15 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Comment Please keep in mind that the posting at your-story.org is actually a press release published by the company itself, so it doesn't really count toward notability. WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 17:39, 15 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete Neither the article nor anything else I have seen provides any evidence that this business satisfies Wikipedia's notability standards. JamesBWatson (talk) 18:42, 16 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Business-related deletion discussions.  • Gene93k (talk) 01:17, 17 March 2012 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.