Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Philip of France, Archdeacon of Paris


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The result was merge to Louis_VI_of_France. czar ⨹   22:39, 13 March 2015 (UTC)

Philip of France, Archdeacon of Paris

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Article was unsourced, and tagged as such, for 8 years; prodded, deleted, and promptly re-created with even less content but still unsourced. No indication that anyone has any sources which would make this an adequate encyclopedia article. Pam D  22:18, 5 March 2015 (UTC)


 * The issue is not sourcing, it's finding anything to say beyond directory-ish stuff. Anyone with a mind to could reference it up & pad it out with background & trivia, but for why? Angus McLellan (Talk) 23:33, 5 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Merge (what little there is) into Louis_VI_of_France. Pax 00:10, 6 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of France-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 16:09, 7 March 2015 (UTC)
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 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
 * Weak keep or merge to Louis_VI_of_France. Sources aren't impossible to find - this one states that he was offered the Bishopric of Paris in 1159 but instead recommended Peter Lombard for the post; and this (nineteenth century) one goes into greater detail, also confirming his date of death and burial in Notre Dame de Paris. These are also confirmable (if usually rather briefly) from other reliable sources. There also seem to be accounts available of his opposing the replacement of canons by monks in an abbey of which he was treasurer - unfortunately, all of these seem to show up only as snippets on Google. But while this is probably just about sufficient for a standalone article, there is nothing that wouldn't comfortably fit into a sentence or two in hist father's article. PWilkinson (talk) 22:27, 8 March 2015 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, N ORTH A MERICA 1000 00:02, 13 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Merge to Louis_VI_of_France. Note that the disambiguation page Philip_of_France will have to be changed accordingly (possibly redirecting ?). "Very little is known of his life" is translated in Wikipediaspeak by WP:permastub, and although there are permastubs that should stay there because they have nowhere else to go and the subject needs to be present in WP, here we have a very natural shelter on the Louis VI page. Tigraan (talk) 10:49, 13 March 2015 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.