Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Phillip DeFranco


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   no consensus.  MBisanz  talk 00:22, 27 December 2008 (UTC)

Phillip DeFranco

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Non notable YouTube "celebrity". TwentiethApril1986  (want to talk?)  17:00, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

Phillip DeFranco is a very notable Youtube Celebrity he is in the all time most subscribed with 290,000 subscribers. He works very close with Youtube and its creators. He is employed by Youtube to make videos, this is the reason i think this page is within the lines of Wikipedia. I have included a link to his Youtube site.http://www.youtube.com/user/sxephil Philip DeFrancoKyle1278 (talk) 17:25, 17 December 2008 (UTC) 
 * TwentiethApril1986, can you be more specific as to why he is not notable in your assessment? There are multiple references in the article that would need to be debunked and some sort of determination needs to be made as to when someone is actually a YouTube celebrity. - Mgm|(talk) 18:25, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Weak keep - I am on the fence about this one, the articles are not "about him" in particular, they are about the show that he is on, does that qualify as "significant coverage", I don't know, however the tone of the article needs some work.--kelapstick (talk) 18:42, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Living people-related deletion discussions. --Erwin85Bot (talk) 00:01, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Philip DeFranco Posts videos Monday-Friday and each video gets around 300,000-400,000 in a day. he is also affiliated with other big Youtube Celebrities such as SMP Films Corey Williams, Charles Trippy, Clip Critics and many others, and he has appeared in many of there videos, and he is currently dating Lindsy who is also a partner with Youtube.Kyle1278 (talk) 02:45, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Youtube describes Philip DeFranco as this; The “Philip DeFranco Show” is the most viewed off the cuff news show on YouTube. The Monday to Friday show attracting the attention of CNN, MSNBC, The New York Times, and the eyes and ears of the internet, has become one of the most popular and trafficked shows on the web. Philip DeFranco has no intention of slowing down. TechCrunch added,” the kid has talent”.Kyle1278 (talk) 00:08, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment - If he has attracted the attention of CNN, MSNBC and the NYT than there should be no problem establishing notability. Other than YouTube as a saying he has attracted their attention (which can not be considered independent, as YouTube writing about someone who is employed by them).  Can you find these articles/Sources?--kelapstick (talk) 00:42, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Links- here are some links that have Philip Defranco on the news and other:
 * http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y96bUNBD1fI
 * http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpwq-mDalcw
 * http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lF36PEFANok
 * CommentThe first link is about Google and Viacom, and they take one of Phillip's videos and play some commentary about it, I would say that would not qualify as him being the subject. The second link is a YouTube party, where he is shown which would not be considered independent.  And the third appears to be him interviewing someone.  I would think that YouTube should not be used as a source to establish notability for people on YouTube.  I still think that we should keep the article, but those are not sources that can be used to establish notability.--kelapstick (talk) 17:48, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
 * On the Philip DeFranco page, the headline says his name is Phillip DeFranco, when it's actually spelt Philip DeFranco, with one l. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Enflamedsilhouette (talk • contribs) 21:49, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete if the show is notable, then we should have an article about that. Unless there is substantial third-party coverage of him as a person (rather than of the show) then delete this and make an article about the show. Cynical (talk) 22:40, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment - If you read the Wikipedia criteria for a entertainer having a bio page it states thus: "Actors, comedians, opinion makers, models, and television personalities: Has a large fan base or a significant 'cult' following." This is clearly applicable to Philip DeFranco (aka sxephil) as he has about 300,000 subscribers on youtube, so I don't think this needs to be discussed further.Ezzi386 (talk) 05:47, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Mgm|(talk) 05:46, 22 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Keep-- Per notability: article by Los Angeles Times, "Philip “sXePhil” DeFranco, whose raunchy pop culture monologues have made him one of the site’s most recognized faces". Another article by The Washington Post: "SXePhil is the alias of 21-year-old University of South Florida student and Web heartthrob Philip DeFranco, whose videos have been viewed millions of times." Plus all the references included already in the article.--Jmundo (talk) 07:08, 23 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete - Tired of the YouTube "celebrity". Not sure how you can be a celebrity in a world that insular. --User:Woohookitty Diamming fool! 06:48, 24 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep - The internet, and hence Youtube (the internet most popular video sharing site), is not insular. We all agree that he gets about 300,000 hits on each of his videos on average. This fits with Wikipedia's own criterion for actors, comedians, opinion makers having a bio page, namely: "Has a large fan base or a significant "cult" following." I don't understand why this discussion is still going on...Ezzi386 (talk) 18:39, 24 December 2008 (UTC)
 * delete no reliable sources establishing notability. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bali ultimate (talk • contribs) 06:36, 25 December 2008


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