Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Phillip Sandifer


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The result was   keep. Missvain (talk) 06:19, 15 February 2015 (UTC)

Phillip Sandifer

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This is an article started by a spammer which has been cleaned up slightly, but the sources that contribute its referenciness do not establish significance. Most are self-edited directory listings and the like, those which are not are basically just namechecks. Guy (Help!) 12:05, 8 February 2015 (UTC)


 * For clarity, the spammer is blocked editor . Delete per nom.  Jehochman Talk 14:34, 8 February 2015 (UTC)
 * For additional clarity, note that JEHochman was the blocking administrator of hippomuse, using the rationale "COI only account" — which wasn't even a blockable offense in 2012, when the block happened. Correction: Block happened in Nov. 2013. Carrite (talk) 18:35, 8 February 2015 (UTC)
 * In short, this was not a banned editor creating an article around a block, this is a run of the mill COI editor who got banned off for being a run of the mill COI editor, and then the fact of that banning is being used as some sort of circular-logic rationale implying the article must be deleted because its creator was banned for having created the article... Carrite (talk) 18:41, 8 February 2015 (UTC)


 * Comment - Not to be confused with Philip Sandifer, the Wikipedia critic, I presume. Carrite (talk) 18:19, 8 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep - Clearly a major figure in the field of contemporary Christian music, as the extensive discography and producing credits attest. THIS is a lengthy interview with the British website Cross Rhythms, "Phillip Sandifer: Kansas-based singer, songwriter, producer and worship leader." And HERE is substantial coverage of Sandifer in the book Hot Hits: Ac Charts 1978-2001, by Jeffrey Lee Brothers. And THIS (4th item listed) is evidence that Sandifer and his Urgent Records are covered in Vol. 3, pg. 25 of the book Rejoice! published by Center for the Study of Southern Culture, University of Mississippi, 1990.  We are here to judge the inclusion worthiness of a subject under our notability rules, not the source of an article. Sandifer is clearly a GNG pass, not even mentioning how laxly we generally rule on such things in matters of popular culture. Carrite (talk) 18:31, 8 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep as per Carrite above. I have incorporated the first two references mentioned above by Carrite into the article. Those two references along with the extensive discography listed in the article, and the long list of other references that include several references from different sources that are independent of the subject, and are verifiable reliable sources help the article subject easily pass WP:GNG. I have never understood the need to delete articles just because the creator happened to get banned later. My goal is to improve the articles with more RS, and keep the articles to help to improve the encyclopedia.     WordSeventeen (talk) 23:12, 10 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of United States of America-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 14:37, 11 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 14:37, 11 February 2015 (UTC)
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