Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Philosopher nicknames


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was speedy keep. Withdrawn with no other oppose votes. (non-admin closure) power~enwiki ( π, ν ) 23:53, 22 January 2019 (UTC)

Philosopher nicknames

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While this list seems well-intentioned, I can't find any evidence that the topic of "philosopher nicknames" is notable. Individual nicknames can be sourced and may be relevant to mention in the article about that person or use as a redirect. The sources provided are all in that vein: so-and-so was nicknamed such-and-such. Unfortunately, the combined list of nicknames or the concept of giving nicknames to philosophers does not seem to be something that has been discussed in a way that would satisfy WP:LISTN or WP:GNG for the topic. RL0919 (talk) 03:15, 16 January 2019 (UTC) Clearly others don't share my concern, so no reason to waste more time on it. I withdraw the nomination. --RL0919 (talk) 18:18, 20 January 2019 (UTC)


 * Keep. I believe that the page satisfies WP:LISTPURP: Information and Navigation, thus qualifying under WP:LISTN. (I started the page.)  I would think that the standard proposed would rule out most of the list pages here. DougHill (talk) 03:39, 16 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Lists of people-related deletion discussions. Bakazaka (talk) 05:07, 16 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Philosophy-related deletion discussions. Bakazaka (talk) 05:07, 16 January 2019 (UTC)


 * Keep but rename to "List of nicknames of philosophers". I had the same concern patrolling this page and changed the "shortdes" to a "list article" to clarify. The title of "Philosophers nicknames" places too much weight on the "group" as a topic, whereas using "List of nicknames of philosophers" puts it in the same category as articles like List of nicknames of European royalty and nobility, where the individual items (subjects and nicknames) are notable, and the use of a cross-categorization "List of X of Y" is accepted under WP:LISTN. Obviously, if there was a material reference/book on the term "Philosopher nicknames", then this article name could be changed back as it would be an article about such nicknames and the list included as examples, but in the absence of that, I think should be renamed to the "List of X of Y" convention. Britishfinance (talk) 10:20, 16 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Agreed. May we rename the page now, or should we wait to see whether we decide to keep it? DougHill (talk) 01:01, 17 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Best not to move pages during AfDs for clarity. Let the process run and then rename to "List of nicknames of philosophers".  I think it would be great to see this article "grow" (and the comments below show there is an intellectual interest here in doing this).  Once it gets bigger, then Andrew D. comments of merging into the bigger "List of philosophers" is worth considering (if it fits easily in that table!). Britishfinance (talk) 09:59, 17 January 2019 (UTC)


 * Keep/merge The current content is weak – it doesn't even have the famous Plato – a nickname bestowed by his wrestling coach. But there's definitely something to be said about the various names and titles used by and for the many philosophers: see Names of Ancient Greek Philosophers, for example.  It might be sensible to merge this into the copious other lists that we have, as an aid to navigation – see Lists of philosophers. Andrew D. (talk) 15:01, 16 January 2019 (UTC)
 * I wasn't sure how to deal with the Plato issue on a list. But if we keep the page, then I'll have a go at it. DougHill (talk) 03:45, 17 January 2019 (UTC)


 * Keep and rename to "List of nicknames of philosophers" (or perhaps, following one example, "List of philosophers by nickname"?) per the above. It's definitely incomplete, missing the weeping and laughing philosophers for a start, but I think it's legitimate as a navigational tool. XOR&#39;easter (talk) 18:34, 16 January 2019 (UTC)
 * I agree; it's just a start. I'll go ahead and add these 2. DougHill (talk) 01:01, 17 January 2019 (UTC)


 * Keep as it seems to meet the list criteria, per Britishfinance's opinion above. What a fun little list! Quaint at this point, but well-sourced and interesting in that obscure way so many good Wikipedia lists are. Hopefully it serve as a starting point for more additions, irregardless of the exact topic name or if it is nestled into a parent topic. 31.54.34.61 (talk) 05:28, 20 January 2019 (UTC)


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